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Liman, can imagine that,-tf, on the winding up of its affairs, there shal! be found a deficiency of assets for the liquidation f its liabilities, this House can honorably or honestly say

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gmonpest the three Counties,— wit!

y divided, for sale . > ae ae hold themselves responsible fur such © ashamed to seck such an advantage to themselves at the cx-) that they ought not 7 : 7 ce ae ate | 1 ‘ = . ‘ ¢ . -m " 7° . > rhial s atpeK 7 « PCUypu Set genese of their brother farmers of King 3 and Prince Counties. deficiency. The money with whieh the stock was purcna e

$f the stock be divided into three equal parts, and one-ihird of by the Society was not theirs, but ours, that is, +t was the at be allotted. to each of the Counties, forsale Un rr mmnnnue people's money ; and the stock, therefore, . clearly not the dene ye eon property of the Society, but the property of the people : the Society are but the agents of the people and the trustees of > : advantages arising

preference will, or ¢an thereby. be given 'o any.

fardy iade.—and to effect uw would surely be no very d.fieult

j »Nen ( sof stock itshould be ordered that the sales of the portions oFs : eo place their property ; and, consequently, as any from the operation Gf the institution, would not have been,

task, ; : severally allotted te each of the Counties, should not take p e@nthe seme day, but with e+ rtain intervals between | then, ifany \ ee particulag connty, for which ageculturists, resident in enher, jor the Mabagers or directors of 1t, but for the public ‘cn

or both of the7other countes, were enger to tad, with a view te quite clear that any unavoidable or accidental losses, sustain- . he snles in . e ee e : r setie purchuse, they could very eastly, withont missing the sales in oy by the institution, cannot, with aby semblance of justice,

If al! were to be sold un

their oOWn ecunties, conirive io du al + : a aia he madeor alluwe d. te fall upon the Society, or upon the di- armers stent In Ning s ane Py ‘ ‘ i. . ae } nate wnret a re ‘rectors of the institution ; but must be sustainea by the real

. ida . } proprietors, who are the people ; and be provided for through

Quarlotierown, all ‘©, how remotely distant soever from the capital, who io purchase any part of the stock, would have to travel : ; ’ eriet aii the way to Charlottetown Nowsure'y it woald be quite as | the action of their representatives, tie” Liouse ef Assembly. reasonable te re quire farmers resect im Que en’s County, to. [f the stock must be sold, as L conclude it unfortunately must, travel, for the purchase of any part of the stock, not cout™ ned cinge nothing but a much larger legislative grant to the in their own county lot, whieh they might desire to obtain, Society, Weis this House can, at this time, be expected to either to Georgetown, of St, Eleanor’s, as te case anant be 5 make, could prevent it; [would say, let us dict as it would be to require farmers, resident in King’s and f ripee of ‘as a to the Society; but allow them to dispose of the Counties, to travel to Charlo tetown for such a puvpose ; and f sale to the Sociely, ; gre ee Wy ag liiinah aie plrn, | certainty thi.k, would be the fairest that can be stock, in whatever way they may thi. — rat 80 — devised + for it would give an equal chance to all, And, were | valuable a stock Should be in any way sac rifived, or diverted st thought mebt. as PE think it would be, that animals should be | (rom the most laudable and beneficial purposes, for which it kept in that section of the country inte whch they might be) was) with so much wise liberality, purchased, is indeed much bough’, for its general benefit, such obligations might be |. he recretted; and, for my owa part, L would freely vote rinposed upon purehasers, at the time of sale, as would « flee! Son eonak of the whole £1 500, required by the Society, to aa : ae ime ee wae Agr ee suite aks redeem the institution, rather than consent that it should fall. iaitindl state, and in the full ond healthy condition of the fine Mr. POPE.—Some hen. members seem at a loss to de- animals, ecmpesing its lwe stock, it 1 already a credit to the | termine, whether the Model Farm is a public institution or a Colony: but, could it be kept in proper operation for two o: | private one; and, therefore. know not exactly how they should three years longer, it would then be some!hing of which We | determine, on the present oceasion, concerning it. And one to which, with very allowable pride, ~¢ | hon, member, the Queen's Printer, whilst freely admitting | the institution to be a public one; very oddly agrees, at the farmers, the benefits would be seen and feit, in every quarter same time, tat the responsibilities, incurred by ag Sa of the Island. I would now freely vore fora small grant, to the j are not pubiic responsibilities. In such reasoning t vere ap- Society, in aid of their firm; but, as a samll grant would no: | pears to bea most unaccountabie incongruity; and, in fact, be sufficient to extricate them from their present embarrassments: | how satisfyctory soever it may be to the hon. member himseli, and, as they themselves do not think that this [Louse can justly |! to me, 1 eonfess, it seems to be altogether incomprehensible. lIon. K. ‘is lamentably deficient in judgment; and, fecling himself to be so, he vainly inclines to the conclusion that every one else | must possess as scanty a measure of that essential quality of | mind, as himself. I argued that, although the money capital | lof the Agricultural Society, with which they purchased their stock, and commenced operations on their farm, was public noney, grented to them by this House, yet, as after that money passed into the hands of the Society, neither the farm, |

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maroht | istiy boast : sought direet the ettention of strangers ; and of whieh by means

o¢ the ©tperior stock raised vpon it, and distributed amongst our

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be expected to grant them as large a sum as would wholly relieve them; and as they appear to be quite prepared to close the concern; we must, 1 am sorry to say, allow it to go down

Mr. tl. HAVILAND. —{f we decide upon selling, or ordering the sale of “the stock, we should, at the same time, resolve to pry whatever amount of debte, due on account of the farm, the eum rerlized by the sale may be insufficient to hguidate. ‘To assume to otrselves the right to prescribe to the Society, in | what way they shall sell their stock, without hkewise assuming | responsivility for their debts, would be an act of injustice | fielore seeking to bind the Society to carry out such a plan of the stock, nor any thing else wpon it, belonging to the con- oom as that proposed by Mr. Dingwell. we must first pass a cern, Was under the control of this House, or at their disposal > 7 solu : nag ee — = full — | this Plouse could not reasonably or justly be held responsible | &l ieasi of anv less which tacy my ereoy sustain, on the l, ° 3 ey, : ' ae ace r > origmel cost of their stock. | bits Be saan with those hon j for any liabilities incurred by the Society on Reena ae me

members who have sad the karm is a public institution; but | institution ; and this, nathless the cynical sneering (which L rejecting the narrow-minded policy of Mr. Perry, who whist bh | indeed regard not) of the hon, member from Bedeque, L hold ' certainty would notobject to avy and every part of the country’s | to be just and conclusive reasoning. participating in the benefits which might result from it, were Mr. LAIRD.—That the stock would fetch more money | it prosperous, yet objects to our being made responsible tor any | if sold in Charlottetown, than if a part of it were allotted to, | of tts losses,—I say that, as we would have been well pleased, and sold in, each of the counties, L readily admit ; but |

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‘ . I ° 1. * i ane praten: # truly fortunate PATTIE. to see si ‘Wente think it would be much more for the benefit of the general | em “ITY participating in the benefits arising from its success; |.” leural interests of the Islond, if'= partihould be wise | so, on theother hand, we must, in justice and honor, be satistied agricultura a. lf le a 2 . tee ae 4 a to make good the losses whieli have, unavoidably and throag! | 12 each of the counties. a loss were incurre: y a . ho mismarag ment, fallen upon it. For what, let me ask, dic { mode of sale, it might be so arranged that any loss whatever the gontieniea 90 tonk upon themselves the very troublesome | which might be found to have been sustained by the Society, | and onerous office. Of directing and superintending its affurs, | through depreciation of prices, in any of the counties, should | assume tint duty? Did they not evidently assume tt, not for} po severally sustained by the counties in whieh such ae)

their own bens fit, but f, fhe benefit of the country at large:

2 Hlouse, whose sense of honor is

elation had oceurred. Mr. PERRY.—If by the sale of the stock, wherever and | however it mney be sold, any less is sustain d thereon, this

And can there be any ‘ia thy

so dull, whose pereeptions of js. Ce are 80 feeble and erroneous, i - ~

thatthey would counsel us to imitye the disgraceful preceeding

of the legislature of the State of Pena syivania, who, not long

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the sum of £1596 be granted to them by the Li gislature, this Session, it will be impos-ible for them to continue the arm. If indeed it were absolutely necessary for the carry? ing on of the Farm that they should be enabled to replace the stock lost at sea, to the value of £500; then, certainly,

‘a grant of £1596 would be required by them—£996 to

liquidate the present debt, £500 to replace the lost stock, and £100 to pay the rent of the Farm. But I myself do not think that there is any necessity for replacing the stock

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more, the results would be most geatifying to every friend to the best Interests of the Colony. The concern, however appears to be doomed; snd, as soon as the Resolution of the Hon. the Speaker shall be disposed of, we may, at once, -eced to agree about the manner in which the sale of the stork is to effected. There is, no doubt, a general desire that the largest amount possible should be realized by the sale of the ‘stock ; and, thergfore, if we were to decide solely wich 9

be : : view to that end, we would, most certainly, determine tkat it

this year; and, therefore, if I take a correct view of the should be sold in Queen’s County; for there, we all know, business, a grant of £500 in addition to the usual vote of the competition, on such occasions, is always the greatest -

‘the shape of subscriptions, ought to be sufficient to carry them through another year. The causes which have led to the involvement of the Farm, ought not to be overlooked by ‘us; otherwise, we shall arrive at a very unfair conclusion concerning it. In the first place we must bear in mind, that, ‘in consequence of the great rise in the price of stock, the ‘cost of the stock purchased in England, excecded its previously estimated value, by upwards of £400; and, again we must ‘remember that the annual working of the Farm, which had

/ £500; and, further, under this head, it must not be forgotten that, in such estimate, the estimate of fencing was spread ‘over ten years, whilst the gréater part of it had to be done ‘jn the first and second years, Many other unforeseen, yet unavoidable, outlays, have also had a share in bringing about the present unfortunate state of the affairs of the Farm ; and, when due allowance is made for them, I think the present involvement of the concern is not such as to preclude a hope, ‘that, could its present responsibilities be provided for, it might yet, under the most careful management, answer all the expectations of even the most sanguine of its projectors. - It ‘has been siated, by the hon. and learned member for Georgetown, that the great projector of the undertaking, meaning Judge Peters, was, at first, opposed to the views lwhich afterwards prevailed, cuncerning the extent of* the farm. ‘That is true; he and I were both opposed to the taking of so large a farm; but, many members of the House of Assembly, differing in opinion from us, on that head, the farm was taken in accordance with their views. I then

WHELAN.—The hon. member from Bedeque, | thought the farm too large ; and I am still inclined to en-

tertuin the same opinion, Still, however, it has notwith- standing its extent, and perhaps limited means, been so successfully cultivated and improved, that it is now better, by hundreds of pounds, than it was when the Agricultura! Society commenced operations upon it; and this great iinprovement of the farm is one cause of the debt due from it; for, when taken by the Society it was entirely ran ont, and the fences were all rotten; but now the fences are all new and the farm in good heart. I, however, very much question whether, if the Society come to dispose of their lease, they will make anything by it; I fear they will not. The eattle stock upon the farm is excellent. A finer shew of the kind eannot, [ believe, be made in all North America ; and it would be highly creditable even to the splended Mode! Farm of Prince Albert. How this stock can be disposed of to the best advantage, is a questioa which certainly requires deliberation. Lt kept until the spring, and then sold, it would, perhaps, bring more, than if it were to be sold im- mediately ; but the expense of keeping it through the winter. might, perbaps, equal, if not overbalance, the difference between the higher prices which mizht be obtained in the spring, and the lower ones which would be obtained at this season of the year. may be sold, the catile and the sheep ought to be equally divided amohg the three counties ; each share to be sold in the county to which it fails; so that the country throughout may be equally benefited by the distribution of such stock, as it was, from the first, intended it should be, And, should

I, however, contend that, whenever it! sale.

age, shawelessly repudiated their jast acm.’ A mejority of

tins House wil never, | am certain, cousensy? Pursuc se /

dishonor ble a course.

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Louse will have to make it good; and if in this Tfouse there! the sale of the stock be so ordered, it onght to be made . ° . ce . .

resides 2 right toe mtrol the Society, with respect to the sale. obligatory, on every purchaser, in any of the counties, that

hey certainly ousht to exereise it; but Yoe pnly fn such a the stock bought by him should not be sent out of his own,

'£500 to the Society, together with their own resources in | but, as it seems to be wisely considered that, on closing the

| concern, we ought to be governed, as muoh as possible, by a ‘desire to carry out the original object of the institution, we must, I thiuk, forego the immediate pecuniary benefit which would arise from a sale of the stock in Charlotteiown, ig favor of the greater one which will ultimately arise from a fair division of the stock, for sale, among the three counties - and L perfectly agree with what has been said about the , pricty of the retention in any county of the stock which ma

be sold into it: no stock sold into one county ought to be

ate no terms {been estimated at £415, has cost within a mere trifle of allowed to pass from it into another. The place of sale, in

each county, should be as near the centre of it as possible ; that individuals from the other counties, wishing to attend it, might be enabled the more easily to do so. My sanction to the Resolution before the Committee, I give with extreme re. gret; for, by giving it, [ consent to the abandonment of an undertaking which, if duly promoted, would, I am fully per. suaded, confer upon the country great and enduring advan.

present views .of the majority of the House concerning the Mode] Farm, inclines me to support the Resolution.

Hon. COL. SECRETARY.—I rise to suggest that when We come to vote the usual annual grant to the Agricultural Society, we may include, in that grant, the loss expected to be sustained on the sale of the Model Farm stock,

Mr. McINTOSH.—i am sorry that the Model Farm hag proved a failure, after so much public money has been ex- pended upon it. When tbe farm was undertaken, by the Royal Agricultural Society, I expected that their intention was to shew us what could be done, ina way suited to our soil aud climate, and on a scale commensurate with our general means. Lut, instead of doing so, they have been attempting to shew us what is done, in other countries, on a large scale, with ample means,and the most favorabie soil and climate. The farm, in the first place, was entirely too large, and besides being undertaken with too large a mind, the undertaking altogether has been prosecuted with*too high a spirit ; and the involvement of the concern is nothing more than might reasonably have beeu expected to result fro: an outset and management so unwarrantable. I am indeed sorry to think the concern must be allowed to go down; for the un- dertaking, if properly limitcd and econom’eally conducted, is such a ons as could not but confer great benefit upon the country: to attempt to prop it up now, by another legislative grant, would, in my opinion, be only throwing good money after bad; and I, therefore, perfectly agree with hon. mem- bers who have already spoken, that it is inexpedient to grant any More money in aid of the institution; especially sinee they, themselves, who have the management of it, discourage us, and, in a manner, warn us against the inutility of voting anything more. The stock, I say,should be sold where the most money is likely to be realized from it; wherever that may be, they who want to sbuy will contrive to atte: d the The mare is a noble brute; and | hope she may fall into the hands of some one, who may turn her to such gool account, that, thirty years hence, it may seem that great pub- lic benefit has resulted from her importation into the Island. Mr. YEO.—L agree with those hon. members who say that the cattle stock and the sheep should be equally divided, for sale, among the three counties ; and, with respect to the mare, L think the fairest way would be, that lots should be drawn for her, on behalf of each of the counties; and that she should be sold in that county, to which, by Jot, she happen to full

tages; and nothing but a sort of necessity arising frem the |

iton. Mr. WHELAN.—I do not admit the correctres? Of! [¢ th, f the who:e stock be made in Charlottetown, the |

‘ i tac sale the predication, that, because the Model Farm may, with muh’ cers resident ia the remote parts of King’s and Prince |

: ) 6a rege Y " wtye > ! at; i ws } be ° ; . > 2. anor 7 , Boeming propriety , be called a pnblic institution, this Hotnse Lt ten will Be virtually shut out froma participation of the | must hold themseives liable forany losses which may have been | UUS ue ii d sd ° " 7 . | sie o be Cerivet < * imcurred om account of it. At the same time that | avow this hadvantac %'° IPRHAKER fon. members should bear in j ; j 4 \. five. - Mm DCTS 3 Lit Opiaton, | can traly Bay, that none can be more willing than | Lionble. the ol HATS Gas , 0 t . 4 7 cn smid nn awn wan pfvine ‘ am, to recogn:ze the claims, upon the Legislature, of any | mind that our Re-a ction woud not dave ae. ae tot - t ' I . *. | pga hs ' ay worte amie ¥ toy " ATroea ‘ he Beciety, institution, or undertaking, having undeniably for its | of the law of the land. We eer mignt agree oe Re bjec 2 ronioty f je » art reli-hbe aa t rn > . . 6 tw FaQnnee f° 4 etNek In ¢ Cty te! i@ promotion of the gene rul well-be ing of thie people | solufion requiring the Sot to cis pose ol their StOuk ma even when required to do su by acquiescence in votes of the | : at cain Headers’ Ol WE Hae No rignt oF ; ie . J : : ‘oertaiu mode tnercm pre: erineir, ve Ss iargest Grants wired can reasonably De proposed for the direct | ~ f.eco their compliance We It; and, everything | os yower to enforce treir Gompilance nm ’ z & | promotion of such patriotic and jrberal views ; and, asto the) Pe" ee wie ° : . ie — jeclare : , ; | considered, it will therefore, I think, be be™»Jnere:y to deciare, | Agricultural Society, my willingness, in this respect, has, more | comsiderce, 1h wit! ©" Resolution, that ifs inexpedient E 4 : : So iil ai , . MOTE ti¢ 2 te sDGSandecr ‘ than onc’, subjected me to serious rebukes and reproaches for! if we are so agreed, DY Our Fresc Yates wt We . a - j : ji r Orie? fF oney tt } x C Ye ud. WUE! | exiravagance, irom my frends. Ou reconsidering the Meme- | to make a further graut of money ior the support ol the eel | rial of the Society, since I first spoke with reference to it, 1 | Farm; leaving them at perfect liberty to dispose of the stuce | perceive that ali they require of the House of Assembly, 18 10! in whatever way they may think best. As respects the jea-| ee Rtn ei cee ae i lousy which has beea imanifested by some hon. members about > so great, that they eat t hone to obte ‘on? the Ass DIY, : i. ‘ ‘ : : fs -% a} . are so great, that they cannot hope to obtain, frour the Asse ly the distribution, in the eountry, of stock imported by the Ag-

a grant of

‘ricultural Society, L must say there has been no cause for it: |

. : | a sain sufliciently large to ex ricate thei from their for L really think the distribution has always been fairly made,

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Gifficuliies ; and all that they now wi-h us to do, ts to sanction their purposed sale of their stock, crop, and naplements, for the

. ; ; ee } liquidatt n of their linbilities. This the Louse may, with |

Mr. CLALRK.—The hon. member fiom Bedeque who

“5 “Tr 4 ...% ‘ - . ! | gag veer Mee iY rwehance taal hia « > way as will afford equal chanees of beneficial purchases to all, | county, unless in exchange for steck which had been sold

into one of the other counties; and, certainly, that no part

of the imported stock should be sent out of the Isiand. As

tor the horses, if it should be wished to keep them in this county, they could all be sold, with the implements, on the farm ; but the duly one worth talking about is the mare. I am indeed sorry that the Model Farm has proved a failure. Could it be kept up at a moderate grapt, it would be a very great error on our part to abandon it; for, not only would it ultimately be the means of directly conferring the greatest and most permanent adyautages, upon our agricultural interests, and, collaterally, upon all our other interests ; but it would be a credit to the Islaud, in the eyes of all intelligent strangers who might visit it. ‘The hon. gentleman then con- cluded by reading and proposing the following Resolution :—

Resolved, That the eattie stock and sheep, now on the | Motel Bari, be equally divided among the three Counties ; and that, if, after the sale thereof, as well as of the horses, implememess aud ail else belonging to the Farm, there should beany balanée of debt due, this House will make good the same.

No stoek to bs sold out of the County to which it may be al-

Iion. Mr. WHELAN. — Hon. members are, I think, travelling out of the record. The Society have not asked us how they are to dispose of their stock. If we assume a right to direct the sale of the stock, we assume to ourselves the ownership of it. It is very true that the munifieence of this House raised up the institution; but from that fact, it dues not follow that we are to assume their liabilities. I do not say what it may be likely this House will do in the end, con- cerning any eventual deficiency of means, on the part of the Society, to pay their debts; but I do not think the Society would not be so particular about the winding up the concerns of the Model Farm, did they not believe that the debts due by it are payable out of their own funds. We have no right to assume the ownership of the stock, although we gave the mopey with which it was purchased. We might as well say to the Electric Telegraph Company—should their affairs become so embarrassing as to induce them to propose a sale of the whole concern, their electric batteries, their wires, and all the apparatus—we gave you a tract of land, and we have paid you £309 a year, in aid of your undertaking, and

proprrety enough, fully sanction: but | deny that, by our aoing

seems to take a strange pleasure in making attacks, unpro-

lotted, unless in exenonge for stock that may be sold into one of | therefore we claim a right to direct how you shall dispose of the other Counties; none of th stock to be sent off the Island! the concern, aud expect you to coaform to our orders in meking

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voked and gratuitous, has taken oceasion, merely for the sake, it would seem, of indulging the unamiable propensity, to de- part from the line of his argumeut, tauntinely to accuse me of baving confessed that L had relinquished my own jucg-

so, we ehall justiv render ourselves haple for any loss which may be sustained, by the Society, on the sale of their stock At the same time, however, I sav that, should { be a member of the Assembly, when the Society shall orem ie ane - for) aid, 1 wi ot be agains ‘avorable Consideration OF tne 1osses | i . y y << tl vite otha oe they hove sustained ; nor | ment, and yielded myselfap to the pone of others. Now will | oppose a grant fortheir relief; but still fdo not say that L beg leave distinctly to tell that non. member, that [ said no it will be my duty to sustain any Memorial, which they may such thing ; bat what I did say is, that I have always, on cause to be laid before the House, with a view to the obtaining | principle, been opposed to the granting of bounties for | of such relief. The question how to ‘be ne by US, IF! the encouragement or support of any undertakiing ; and that, | seg ee ac Sea by el eiithas cuca -whenever L had acquiesced in the voting of money grants, on | ae ated somerdl ie, by thik i Laledilks tine labile the bounty eystem, i ~— done se reluctantly : and the result rnvolveg, that, without legislative aid toa very large amount, it had, in general, proved that, had L adhered a own Un- guint tall sand against our farther support of which, so many of biassed judgment, L should have done right. This is very | our constituents have earnestly protesied 2 ‘This question, the | far, L think from being a confession of my having yielded up | majority of the House will, Lam certain. decide in the negative | my judgment to the guidance of others; bat I will just bint! ‘Yhen, baving so determined, our farther duty will simply be, to! sg chathon. member that, although firmness of judgment is | allow the Society to sell off therrstock, im such nisnrer and at! 5 : such place or places, as they themselers may please to determine | sn centintialtl of -Shkth upon. Let the Resolution of the lion. the Sperker, 1 would) cuaractertstic 0 Gu ne ar initia dl aes ery, merely set forth that it is inexpedient to meke a further) Loa. Mr. W Tat | sHAN,—Lt seems 10 me att ur p prantof money for the support of the Model-Para ; and let the sent discusston 1s being very unpeces-aruy prolonged ; aud Society be notified necordingly.

an attribate of wisdom, the obstunacy of presumption is a|

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end say to the Society, you shall sell ene third of your sock in! goucht to be attained by the Agricultural Society ia now! promoted. 5

, . srt yr i cs ' %. _ t . . .-« ‘ x _ - Quees’s County, one third in King’s County, and one thrd im! yegoriulizing us. They ouly want te know whether or not IVrinee County; aod if, in the next session of the Assembly, ¢

euch dictation of the Assembly, they sustained loss, they would, : aa ah ie oe certainly, have a strong claim upon the Assembly for resmourse- Stock, From what has algeady been said, by hon. members,

| ! ; . r 10 fire "ea i 10 : » a ea | . ment. Lat, if we tell them that they are perfectly at liberty to | with reference to the first query implied in the Memorial, it

Mr. POPE.—I should tike co know what the Hon. Col. | Secretary would propose to do with the imported mare. Hon, COL. SECRETARY.—L would propose that she’ should be sold here, under an express obrigation that whoever |

‘wight be her purchaser, she should not be seat off the Island. |

Mr. POPS.-—I hope the members ior King’s and Prince Counties will not agree to any such Resolution.

Hon. the SPEAKER.—HUon. members must wait until the Resolution is tabled ; it is not seconded yet. |

Mr. PERRY.—Let us first decide whether or not we will | grant anything more towards the support of the institution. | ~ Hon. Mr. PALMER,—Yes, that will be the best way. | Iam one who freely gave support, by my votes, to the insti- | tution of the Model Farm, under the impression that its) operation, according to the scheme conceived for its manage- | ment, would prove highly advantageous to our agricultural | interests; and [ am not yet disposed to admit, either that the undertaking has really proved a failure, ar that, if only duly sustained, it is ever likely to fail in effecting the im-

lf the Heuse go beyond this, that merely beeause we do not keep steadily in view the end) portant ohjects for the attainment of which it Was at first Ilion, members, who declare against any furtherg general good; most clearly proves it to be, in the fullest

legislative grant, towards the support of the Model Farm,

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finances, than by that of the Model Farm. We are told that the losses of stock at sea amounted to £500, and that the

sale of it. Such an assumption of authority, on our part, in this case, would be manifestly absurd; and an assumption by us of power to direct the Agricultural Society how they should dis- pose of the stock of their farm, would be almost equally so. Hon. COL. SECRETARY. — There is not the least analogy between the two concerns. That ‘of the Electric ‘Telegraph Company is positively a private one, established by private means; its operation, although for public benefit, being for private gain; and our having granted them a small tract of land, and made them an allowance of £300 a year, for the purpose of bisding them to keep up a communication between us and other countries, takes away nothing from the private character of the undertaking. The other, the Model Farm, is an institurion established wholly by means of public money, not one farthing of private money having ever been expended upon it; and its chief object, the raising of you stock of the best and purest breeds, for general distribution

amongst our farmers throughout the colony; no pecuniary gain to be derived therefrom for the behoof of the Society

individually, but every benefit resulting from it to be for the

sense, a public institution ; and, cousequently, also that all

vs we will assist them, by « further grant of money ;and, if not, are, in doing so, influenced rather, I incline to believe, by the property belonging to it is public property, and all its they can shew that, by selling their stock, in compliance with whetber or not we will sanction their proposal to sell their their consideration of the unsatisfactory state of the public liabilities, public liabilities,

| The great object in palestine the farm was, I say, the raising of stock from improv breeds, for the benefit of the whole Island. The projectors

+ ; i } > ar) > is side arcs nt ( 7 7. " nimi j - > os ° si dispose of their stock, as they please, they can have no nght to, is evident enough that the majority of the House are alte- concern is, besides, upwards ef £9V0 in debt. ‘Tho losses and heeatons at the institution never, for one moment,

look to a future House for reimbursement of any loss they may | gether indisposed to grant any more money in aid of the Model were the resuit of mere accident ; and, were we disposed to thought of mo

polizing it, for the sole or immediate

have sustained on the sale of it. 1, however, say, that, Puyor: that question then, We may say, is already negatively persevere in the prosecution of so laudable an undertaking, of themselves, or even of the whole of Queen’s County only,

whatever may be the result of the sale, as affecting the unfortu pate institution, it L be in the Assembly next Session, and any proposition be then submitted, for a grant to the Society, to reimburse them for any loss which they may have sustained on the sale of their stock, | will net oppose it.

posed sale of their stock? may, it seems to me, be at once i

iaffirmative answer.

mountable obstucle. Indeed, neither in the losses, nor yet. in Y

disposed of ; aud the other which is, shall we sanction the pro- the debt itself would appear to be anything but an insur- to the exclusion of the other two counties; but, if hon.

members from King’s and Prince Counties now choose t0

properly disposed of, without further discussion, by a simple the debt, were there a general disposition in the House, to give up their claims, all [ can say is, let them do so. My : Let them, L would say, be left entirely | take a favourable view of the affairs of the concern, would desire, however, with respect to the institution, has always

Hon. the SPEAKER.—My Resclation is not seconded. at liberty to sell their stock, in whatever way they may there be found any real cause of discouragement, for the been, and now is, when we contemplate the immediate closing

Hon. Mr. WHELAN.—L second it.

choose ; for we cannot assume the right to dictate to them, s0sses are a mere casualty ; and, considering the very serious of it, that it should be made as beneficial as possible to the

’ . ° } . .- = Hon. Mr. LONGWORTH.—IE we allow the institution on that.head, without, at the same time, assuming, by anti- expenses incurred by the working of the farm, and par- whole Island; and, regarding the stock as strictly public of the Model Farm to go down, [ think it very probable that cipation, direet responsibility to them, for whatever loss they ticularly bearing in mind that there has not yet been time for property, I say it cannot be fairly disposed of, unless it be the rising generation, when they come to occupy our places, may sutain on the sale. Stiil, however, [say that Charlotte- any pecuniary returns from the increase of stock, the debt is equally distributed for sale among the three counties;

as men, upon the stage of life, will reproach the memories of téwn would be the best market. -

their fathers with haviog allowed so uscful, so excellent an) Hon. COLONLAL SECRETARY.—I am sorry to differ institation—the work too of their own hands, tho creation with all my friends who appear to me to have taken a wrong of their own liberality—to sink, for the want of a little view of the state of the pecuuiary affairs of the Agricultural further fostering exercise of the truly wise and liberal =pirit Society, as respects the Model Farm. They appear to me to which had ealled it into existence. ‘Ihe institution is most have assumed that the Society are actually indebted, on certainly a public institution, inasmuch as the money by account of tae Farm, in the sam of £1596. Now this is not means of which it was ealled into existence, and has, hitherto, the case; for the real debt of the Society on account of the been kept in operation, was public money ; and 1] am entirely Farm, or of the Farm to the Society is no more than £996. et a loss to conceive how any clear-headed, right-thinking 1t is true that the Society state, in the Memorial, that unless

nothing more than might have been expected to occur at the outset; and is, by, means, a proof, either that the farm was uuwisely undertaken, that it has been improvidently managed, or that itis not likely to answer the ends which its original projectors and promoters had in view. However, to argue in favor of the concern, seeing that a large majority of the House are determined to abandon it, would be a mere waste of words; but I greatly regret that such should be tho general disposition of the House; for I feel confident that, if we were patiently to await the issue, for two or three years

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then, should there be any deficiency of means to liquidate the debts due from the farm, this House, having justly a8 ‘sumed the institution to bé a public one, will be bound to ‘make good the deficiency, which may be done by including it in the usual legislative grant to the Agricultural Society. If we omit to make any order for the distribution and sale of the stock, the Society may sell it in and about Charlotte- town; audsuch a limitation of the sale would, in my opinion, be an act of great injustice to the other parts of the Island. (Lo be continued.) , + J&R. B. Invane, Reporter,