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House In Committee Onl Amend- ments To Elections Ac at, Stipen. diaryMaglstratesActétnd Other

~ Legislature, March 8.

'1 gquscmet at ll a. m. _ ' w, Stewart intimated that an“ w queSl-IODI WORM b0 tib- “lm, m; debate on the Draft '12:; rgspeollilll Compensation workmen was read a. first time. p; Act to incorporate Mt. Carm- mmu Limited was reported n “vol-ably by the private bills

m debate on the Draft Address oontlnued by rm. W. M. Lei. w, Stewart. Mr. ‘I'm-nu A. “Mull and Mr. J. P. McIntyre.

Alter Becca Mm continued by Mr. Mom-

Th, speaker put the motion on u Draft Address, which was car- M without further discussion at

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on motion of Hon. Mr. Stewart ggflouse went into committee with w, ieslle Hunter in the chair on lwlld reading of an Act to amend u. not relative to lunatlcs and to be custody of luhatics.

rile amendment provides that rm nnancial and general man- uenlent ci the Falconwood I-los- pitiil shall be vested in six trustees oi whom folir shall be the members .1 the Treasury Board and the allel- two shall be appointed by the lieutenant Governor in Council. The Chairman of the said Board mil be the Premier, and the said goal-d oi ‘Trustees shall remain in like during pleasure."

lion. Mr. Stewart explained that he object was simply to have the llnlsier of Health included on the poi-d oi‘ Trustees. There was no olllge in the remuneration of trus- lfti. The bill carried without amend- lent.

Election Act Amendmcn‘

0n motion of Hon. Mr. Stewart lllellousc-went into committee. with Mr. ‘Heath Strong, K. 0., in it! cha‘r, on second reading of an M lo Amend the Election Act, i922. Section (l) of the bill pro- lilia that: "Subject to being soon- adlssolved by the Lieutenant Gov- micr, every Assembly. from and liter the dissolution oi the present. "Ascmbly, shall continue for rive pars from the day oi the return oi lie writs for a general election, and no longer."

The Amendment, Hon. Mr. Stew- "3 flliliniilcd, does not take effect lilllll after the next general elec- lloli. It was adopted in order to hing the Provincial Statutes in line "ill the legislation in other Pro- vinces. '

Provision is also made for doing luv with the necessity oi running ally-election for portfolio posit-

ns.

‘fr. McIntyre: “Does this also ‘P91? °ll1.V after the next elec- lion?"

lion. Mr. Stewart: “It applies fllll time after the amendment is Wsed."

141- McIntyre and Mr. Lea ob- iicied on the ground that there Ila now a vacant portfolio and to W8 the clause would be tanta- “lllll to "legfslatlng a man into .m',|

lion. Mr. Stewart said tho change h: essentially a common-sense M. lie reminded the Opposition ml he had always supported this lien and was taking the first op- Mmfltl’ vl passing it‘ into law.

lll- L. a. Alien thought the a- iilldment should not apply until 1M‘ the next general election. Ml". T. A. Campbell expressed tho 231° "pinion and moved as an a- mlldment that the clause (b) milllld not come fnto effect "until

'1‘ the dissolution 9g the m“- ‘"1 General Aggmblyjv “It queston was further discus- mbv Mr. J. a. MacDonald, m. “m Mr. Dennis, Mr. McIntyre, m.

llbell. non. Mr. Stewart. gmllllbclPs amendment was "uh on a standing vote, 11-15 e °T181nal. clause was carried i119 same division. ‘ ‘:3: b1" passed second reading ‘ u‘ 111mm‘ dscussion. Mr.

h, Jgilllaver. intimated his in- mdmom m°v1ll8 a further a- . when the bill came up

1l1rd reading,

s " ' "Pllnllplnlzv MAGISTRATE! ill-on of Hon. Mr. Stewart

cation but he felt we have been un- Illlfll’ v-‘ticised in the matter oi our educational system. H9 (gltgd instances of Island students going to other Provinces and doing ex- ceptlonally well.

511F111“! i118 Government can do

tolmprovc education will have the hearty support or the opposition, Mr. Léa declared. » Grave consideration should be 81V“. however, before any drastic 111161188 are made which would entail heavier burden; on m; “x. ipllyers oi the Province.

It was gratifying. he said, to know that thq Government would rebuild Prince of Wales College with the least possible delay.

The Opposition leader went rapidly over the remaining clauses in the Speech. Other oocasio would offer to discus these mat- ters and as other speaker's were to follow he did not think it desir- able to take up further time in the debate. -

the House we! lt into committee with Mr. W. A. Si! ewart in the chair, on "W111i T6841! l8 oi an Act for the appointment of St‘, diary Magis- tratu for ti: a different counties in the Provlncq oi Prince Edward Is- land.

The bill ymovides for the ap- pointment b; I the Lieutenant Gov- ernor in Co‘ ncil oi one Stipendlary Mflglstrate lfor each County, such Magistrates not to act in cases a- "51118 in ally incorporated. city or town in which there is a Stipen- dial’! Magi-i irate.

Hon. Mr. Stewart explained that the bill is dderltical with en Act Pissed in N194 by the late Hon. Ma‘. Peters when. Attorney General, and which had proven satisfactory.

Ml"- '1'- a". Campbell asked if the Mari-stratum appointed under the act are to be substitutes for the Chief Magistrates oi the County @1111 018° “Ihe Magistrates recently appointed for the Province? Un- lefle the m evious Acts are consoli- dfllel! Wllb. this measure there will be hOpGICSI-l confusion.

Hon. Stewart explained the other Act a will be repealed and there will then be one Stipendiary Magistratn for each county.

Mr. Md lZntyre thought this was not being economical,

Hon. M r. Stewart explained that the cost {would not be any greater.

Mr. Th ane A. Campbell approv-

PBEIVIIER STE“'.'l. ll ‘_

Congratulations ‘were tendered iby the Premier to the mover and seoonder of the Address (Messrs Heath Strong and W. A. Stewart) in his opening remarks. He also took occasion to compliment the Speaker, Hon. Dr. A. A. MacDonald whose good Judgment and exper- ience would, Mr. Stewart believed, Euide him succmfully in his arduous and responsible duties.

Th4; Premier also complimented L116 Opposition leader upon the impartial manner in which he had discussed important issues of the debate.

The importance especially in the impressions made upon the younger generation of the visit last summer ed of the principle of the bill. He o! His Excellency. lord Bess- suggested slight amendments in borough. was dwelt upon. ‘The phraseolq gy which were adopted. Province was proud to receive His

There "was further discussion by Excellency and was loflllnz for- Mr. Cam] lbell and Mr. Strong. ward to a further visit when he

500911011. 5 read: "Notwithstanding W111 be accompanied by Lady Bess- any _oi.' iihe statutes in this Prov- bOYOIlEh- ince now" in force with regard to The Imperial Economic Confer- the independence of the members ence at Ottawa will, Mr Stewart oi the Legislative Assembly, it believed, probably be an epoch shall be llawful for the Lieutenant making event. The more closely the Governql- in Council to appoint t0 different branches of the Empire the office of Stipendiary Magistrate. are unified the better they will for any! County n. person who may be able to serve themselves and the be a miznlbel" of the said Legislative world generally.

Assembly, and such appointment Many theories have been put shall inlno way affect the right oi’ forward to account for the such pill-son to sit or vote in the present, cwnomic situation; but

Legislative Assembly, and he shall not be iinblc "for any penalty on account. of so doing."

Mr. (J ampbcll opposed this clause and lTLll lved that it be struck out.

Hon. Mr. Stewart said the Act was fr! med-by a man for whom. although. o. Liberal, Mr. Stewart always hnd the highest regard-dhe late I-ll in. Mr. Peters.

Mr. "Thane A. Campbell opposed the pd nciplc of the clause and mov- ed that . it be struck out.

Aftcr discussi n. by Hon. Mr. Stewazit and Mr. Lea it was decid- "1 V) report prllKle-SS 0h the b111- symptoms of improvement but we

At 6 p. m. the House adjournedphave yot to go a long way before lo mu -t at 3 p. m. today (Wcdnes- lgiuming to n°ma1cy_ dB-Y-l Mr. Stewart expressed his inter- cst and appreciation oi the Opposi- tion leaders dkscusslon oi the agricultural situation. If there was any fault to find with Mi‘. Leo's rc- "marks in this connection it was that he was too much of a special- fist.

after all they are only theories. The Opposition leader had mentioned one, namely; the increased use of machinery, replacing hand labor. ‘This was a repetition of the situa- tion ln England when the power looms were first introduced. The situation today is o: course more intensified but there is a, close parallel in the unemployment; caus- cd by the displacement of labor by machinery.

We find, the Premier continued, that we are in a very serious eco- nomlc situation. There are some

DEBATE UJontnued from Page 1) pocket; oi needy workmen. It has proved a great burden to Canada when we had to expend $70,000,000 to glue relief to the extent oi $7,

000,001).

Mr. Lea expressed appreciation of the action oi the Government leader in postponing the de- bate nn the Address during Mr. Leo's illness last week.

Criticism Answered

Mr. Lea had offered only onc criticism oi the Minister of Agricul- tnrc, namely, that he should have got freight rates reduced. Every Province has been sirivinB for con-

m the appointment o; Hum cessions in this respect and this Dr. w. J. P. MaoMillan may have had somelhlnc to do with as Jvflmster o! Health and the financial (iiIfiCUIlZlCS With WhiCh

the railways are now confronted. Mr. Stewart had not learned that there are home markets available for our potatoes, even ii lower freight rates were secured.

Mr. Lea suggested an opportunity in Nova Scotla.

Mr. Stewart said he was not aware that there was any market worth while in Nova. Scotia: and ii such market existed New Bruns- wick was nearer than we were to take advantage oi it.

The high achievements both in scholarship and in service to the community of Hon. Dr. MacMil- lan were referred to by the Prem- ier, who expressed keenest appre- ciation of Dr. MacMillans efforts in advancing the interests of pub- lic health.

The late Liberal Government, the Premier suggested, had little to boast of in public health work as came from other

Eduu ltion the Government had made a. wise choice, lVin‘. Lea be- lieved. Dr. Macmillan, he said, was highly qualified and was entitled to even more letters after his lianlc than appears on the glass door of his o ffice. In view of the necessity of p ractslng economy, however, the (Opposition leader asked if it was "absolutely necessary at this time: that the Province should un- dcl-tn ire the expense of increasing the ( ‘rovemmcnt portfolios by 25 per cent.'..'"

‘I'll-e late Government, he continu- ed ind done more to establish and imprv we public health than "all other." Governments for the past twenty years."

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l-Iducatlonal Problems

‘Jlhc regrettable dislructioll of Prince oi Wales College has again brought the. educational problemli-he initiallv beic re the people. Many suggest-ll"! "'1'"?!- hauo been offered as to establishing high school training in the Prov-

inctl. Tho fact rcmllins that the child,“ 0g the provlncg, if they Continuing, Mr. Stewart declar-

nro lqmwql-ging 5nd ambitious, ed his conviction that the most

Teachers‘ Training

"my ohm“ Q thorough grounding important thing in llnection with

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education at present is teachers‘ training. ' Mr. Lea: "Here, here."

Teachers are sent out not matur- ed, not thoroughly trained, Mr. Stewart said. The result is the crop of failures in our schools of which there is so much complaint. Nowa- days, also there are so many at-

‘traotions and distractions which

interfere with the students’ work. We will never achieve satisfactory results in education, he said, until the teachers are paid on s. basis of the work which they actually per- form.

The speaker recalled the time when grammar schools were scat- tered throughout the Province, with competent male teachers in charge, and when the students‘ work was done much more satisfactorily.

He did not believe we should re- move the test of examinations but the work should be thoroughly done befov- the students are asked to la‘; s: exams.

Government's Aim

The present Government's am- bition is to establish normal train- ing on a sound and satisfactory basis.

The Government would proceed at once with the rebuilding of Prince of Wales College. The in- tentlon was to construct a fire proof building modern in every way. "But it will be built for edu-

cation," the Premier added. "I ncecl ‘ criticised for not obtaining addi- , nowx, ML Campbell counterei It

say no more than that."

Unemployment Grant

The unemployment money was

said, to spcncl further time in dis- cussing the Draft Address. It is now the practice at Ottawa and in‘ other Provinces to curtail the de- bate on this address as much as possible. He did not wish to de-

i The proper way to approach authorities oi Great Britain, he thought, was to give them somr assurance that mutual tariff ar- rangements could be made.

Mr. Campbell complimented the Minister oi Agriculture on lilo stand which he 1:001! 1B 0031190110“ with the attempt of the Perth. N. B., growers to "boycott" British goods. He was also glad to sec thzli The Guardian newspaper had com- mended Mr. Sharp's attitude. This, however, wis a great departure from the Bennett Government's, policy of “blasting” a. way into the markets of the world. .

Alleged discrimination in the administration oi the unemployy ment grant was charged by Ml". Campbell, who proceeded to dis- cuss the matter from a federal; standpoint. There was nothing, he ' said, in the Speech to that unemployment relief would be continued, nor did he, Mr." Cnmpbcll, believe it would be con- ‘ tinned, as it had not proved a I'llCiL'S."l.

Suggests Economy

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The reconstruction of Prince of‘ Wales College will involve the more

prive other members of the privil- ege oi speaking, but suggested that . time might profitably be saved in? this connection. 1

DIR. T. A. CAMPBELL

Further compliments upon his elevation to the Speaker's chair were received by Hon. Dr. Mac- Donald from the next speaker, Mr. Thane A. Campbell, (First Prince). Mr. Campbell also complimented the mover and seconder oi the Reply (Messrs. Strong and W. A. Stewart).

The Opposition leader had com- lmented on the “barrenness" of the ‘Speech from the Throlle. He, Mr. Campbell, was not surprised at. this. During the past two years he had been through two election campaigns in which lie had array- ed against him all the heavy artil- lery of the present Government. ‘In analyzing " the statements of Conservative speakers in those

‘ad Mr. lea’: suggestion that the .Government should refrain from

important question of reconstruct- ing the educational system of the Province. Mr. Campbell commend-

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i ‘any drastic changes which might; involve heavy financial burdens. He gathered from the Premier's re-i marks that it was his intention to i grapple with the problem in a. statesmanlike manner. i

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Mr. Campbell regretted being un- able to congratulate the senicri member for Charlottetown on the .,manner of his appointment as' Minister of Health and Education. i The Conservatives had promised 1 to end “legislative: and administrat- ive bungling." They posed as “con- stitutional experts." Yet _the Minis- ; try of this department was created

by Order in Council, without the necessary proclamation’ in the Roy- al Gazette. The Government later discovered they had appointed "a minister who did not exist to a.

campaigns Mr. Campbell found they had confined themselves to destructive criticism, and this bar- renness of any constructive policy was evident now in the Speech _from the Throne. I

i The Liberal Government had been

tional subsidies at Ottawa; yet in ithe Speech there. is no constructive outline of what the present Gov- crnmcllt proposes to do in this mat- ter. “Even when thcy come into

department which did not exist"

; and it was not until Sept. 26, 1931,

ithat the proclamation was made. Dr. MacMillanz “If we had done

1 as you people did we would never

lhnve issued it."

1 “We are not dealing with that

was because there had been bung- iling that. he could not offcr- his congratulations to the hon. Minis- ter on his appointment. <

Hon. Dr. MacMiliall: “I can get

distributed as fairly as it could be power they still have to confine. along without them... ‘.

distributed, the Premier stated in reply to the Opposition leader's criticism on this subject. It was easy to criticise bllt it was very difficult to administer a. grant of this kind. Instructions were sent out on every occasion to insure that those who needed the money re- ceived employment. In Charlotte- town a committee composed of a representative from each political party was appointed, which was the fairest method the Government could devise.

The Opposition leader had com- plalned of certain omissions in the Speech with regard to subsidy claims, old age pensions, etc. "Well," Mr. Stewart replied, “the lnte Gov- erliment had these claims in thc Speech from the ‘Throne, and what did we ever got? The present Gov- crnment has been ill office only 51X months; the late Government was in office 48 months. I hope, before our four years are ollt, that we will carry out our election promises and that it will not be as it was a few months ago-a more death-bed gesture." (Conserv- ative applause).

Liberal Record Bare

It did not lie in the mouth of Opposition speakers to raise the question of subsidy claims, Mr. Stewart continued. The prcscht situation is the worst financially that Canada and the world has experienced. That did not apply when the Liberals were in power- at that time they had every op- portunity of Pressing our subsidy claims at Ottawa. Does the Oppo- sition lcader suggest that anyone could expect to get subsidy settle- ment from Canada under present conditions?

Despite unfavorable conditions, however, an attempt had been made by Premier Stewart to calla Mari- time Conference on the claims questions. Owing to the situation irFNew Brunswick the Premier cf that Province could not attend, but Mr. Stewart hoped to make further progress in this mat- WY- "I ml! lly to my holl. friend," he added, “that we are following this matter up. We shall not lie dovm. on the Job as my hon. col- léflmles did during the four years they were in power."

Ho had no desire, iilc Premier

subsidy ‘

{themselves to criticisms of ipredecessors," he argued.

i The same 'mightybe said of _old age pensions and teachers super- iannuatlon allowance, of which the 'Speech contains no mention, Mr. Campbell continued.

Potato Embargo

One thing had surprised him in the Speech and in the address of the mover of the Reply. He recalled‘ loccasions when supporters of the ‘late "Liberal Government had been {severely criticised for introducing federal politics into discussions in this House. Not only has federal politics been introduced into the Speech from the Throne, but thc Government embarked upoll the sphere of federal action by send- ing a. representative to England to negotiate for a. removal of the British potato embargo. I-le was not criticising the Government for cn- ideavoring to lift the embargo.

Hon. Dr. MacMilian: “What are you talking about, then?"

Mr. Campbell: “I am simply ox- prcssing my surprise: my hon.

sing federal politics."

Hon. Dr. MacMillan: "You don't disagree with the idea?"

Mr. Campbell: "I don't disagree with “the idea but I disagree with the method. This is a matter which belongs solely to the sphere of federal politics. The representative on that delegation could appear at most in an advisory or co-operativc capacity, and it seems to me that a proposal to Great Britain that the embargo on our potatoes should be removed might have been made in a more diplomatic and effective manner."

Continuing, Mr. Campbell said it should not take much persuasion to convince the British authorities that the Colorado beetle is not spread by shipments oi potatoes ‘overseas. Tho real purpose of the

embargo, he contended, was to pro- itect the British market for tllcir ‘own producers, and it seemed "an impertlnent thing" for Canada to ask for a. removal of embargocs which were in effect protective while at the same time every ges- ture the Canadian Govemmcnt has mode towards Great Britain has been in the way oi’ almost prohib- itory tariffs against British goods.

friends were so opposed to discus-'