V’ Won c2. 193s‘

which we received ‘in 1912 under

(csnilrlued from PIE! 1) ~~"" the Premiership of flu groan; gm".

Premiers have. anything to do with€ having a Commission npllmlcu by‘

n position to umke any final deter;

mlnatlon or assessment. u“... . olacnsms nasrossmnm

NIGHTGOWNS $1.

_,__ _._..__= A ll l-iARLUFfL l <1‘! GUARDIAN ' - 1 tilt FHREE .=. _ ABM . .. W3» \— _ ;

' 64 n the presentation that was made by in 1m had exactly the same auth- lmua as Island am 1- Now we have‘ ‘ ’ . * Liberal the late Government at the con- ority as the Whik Commission ci the evidence t. nisblsck oi know- . _;,

-— "r*:°"..‘:.:r;:' i... .. ..... 2.2:‘ :2" .1“ t V ‘l a ‘ - - ~ * v c" "c "- e " m» Dresden , , o1 e _ ~ ' ,

m“ gamut the Dominion until I Justice of the Province was m m. the Dominion Government?" is wrong. Possibly the White . Mud him make that statement. I innl lllyment based on our claims Eon. Mr. MaoPhee: "l was dis- Commission is wrong. I would not Mr. McIntyre: “I may say that I m“, l; the hon- member b" which were reauy thou, for 11.. cusslns the lnterprovincial ccufer- suggest rou- a moment that u» in. uu. male in." the Duncan Report. if so. first time, presenmd in their full ence of 1927. Is that what the hon. member from Tlguisb is wrong," Hon. Mr, Moon-lee: "1 wand“- u . . ow um flu- wwwt v" fem" . (Loud laughter.) the hon. member knew that Island f S ' Mr- Molntylo: “I mean the White gravel was in existence in 1900,‘ when g

umenta used lion of the three Maritime; W before the Duncan Com- , wd lg my hon. friend will and 11 of the Com- l; report. he will see win: they attach to this matter.

THE DUNCAN COMMISSION

"In 100d the Duncan Commission recommended an interim inc-reuse of $126,000. My _hon. fricndrsey thlt we owe this to the Duncan re- Dort and that we would never have

ht "k [bad the Duncan report if Parlia-

p1"!

w, you will recall. was 0011190804 time claims, which is necessary in

member is referring to?" d

Commission." _

Hon. Mr. MaoPhee: “The other Maritime representatives co-oper- ated to the utmost. Thnt is another thing for which we must commend our Premier; that without dlflonlty he could get these people to om”- erste with him." (Applause) Each

the opportunity was given under

Trade Board Sooptloal l

"Nova Scotla. and New Brunswick mew that the Audit Board could not deal with their claims, and everybody else knew it too. Will my hon. friends recall the time that that famous “pamphlew appeared

of Tsde and the address by Ben-

Mr. McIntyre: “Sure I did."

Hon. Mr. MacPhee: “Then i hink the member should have akon the other ministers, his col- Jllllfi. 11110 hll confidence!” (Ap- clause.) Be shouldn't have kept this valuable information locked up

this statement was prepared." \

the time there was local gravel available, and employment to be

These in blue, flesh, or willie, frilled or ‘fagoted trim, smartly effective and new . .

TAFFETA GOWNS Special at $1.49

$1.

mbgral _'__, ‘ ament had listened tc the Conserv- 0f the Maritimes presented its case. in the Liberal press, with the 33,- in his own breast. That begins to v ‘ative members at Ottawa, who. the! 0nd there was no lack of unan- 000,000 subsidy claim? Do they re- look suspicious! (La hter and ap- “ 7550118111. I think "F ll I W17 "Y. 0l7poeed_ the appointment of 110'“?! . collect what produced the issuance plause. “Here he was, importing _ W, argument, l.u u~ u cull that Commission. Now, Mr. speaker-J I am not suggesting, w. Bpoak- of that? Doe; the leader of the Op- mvel. uud thepoihcr Ministers wq-e Lace trimmed taffeta Nightgdwns, full length, Gil-dis; _ ws‘"':"*.".‘."".’.::‘s2.:..“"*. :~=..::""=v.:° s» M» §£'..E"€.ii"i§..?;il.?‘. "s": $32k” crisis sis... Prove‘. °‘.’“.‘ll".‘.'..‘““..".’.°“‘ .;~='- M" cu my mil“. wu- wmo our and M- a 0 0 e " - B. B, 0 TO '* 0 l!‘ - m“ ° ‘we’ m‘ °‘ Mm y g ° a ‘mm p” “ ° ’ 7°‘ °“°" ‘u lug, shown ln tea rose only $1.49 Col-sets

or “in” “SW3. .2‘. " r El: ‘él*;“i.z"zz‘"s"l“‘s- c: “use v w“ (ca; ...... ... ... v -

M, duo on: ,du were sumo: »>~ "w~~e~~-- ~aos owner-eel» , moneytebadlsbnted

mm “d tué late Judge w. s. delay and political participation this Province, during nose just when n1 hon. friends were go- to our own mph, m; n, “W, L366 tYIIIIHICd I Corseleites

my do Wu "u ms I ==-~=1v w c::..:s::~:r";.r:.v...% “a "as... r u: a "Y cor, arr" " “' c d Ch Sli $1 s9 A ' ya some . . z an. mes own er. ( u epp ause.) repe e ene ps Brassieres ‘

Q

ent, and l may say that it erence made by the member from used again, because the whole Tlgnisn to an editorial m a 11511. ntatlon before the Duncln fax Conservative newspaper. and mission was made part. of our recall the attitude of the Liberal before the White Commission. press in Halifax when the Maritime n, [Qadllf of the Opposition need claims were first talked about.

him. .. i125 b. g e

hon. friends that Nova Bcotia and New Brunswick refused i0 c:.-o,~e.- aterbut we know what happened at the time the Audit Board was ap-

030001200 claim sudden] uppeared in the Patriot. But the Board of ‘Trade had met and discussed this "of! thing, and had expressed the opinion that the Audit Board was not the tribunal which could deal

Claims Premier Knew

m". McIntyre: “I guess the Pre- uer knew about it.”

shoulder straps they are

We cannot recall ever showing a value equal io this at the price. These slips have adjustable

good lengths, hang

Tune in to our

M...» that wc neglected any op- Anyone who knows the history of Pmme“. “d We know the reason Hon. Mr. MaclPheez “That makes , _ Mun“. of emphasizing 1t; though, the Muuum, cm,“ momma“, for the attitude of Nova Bootia and with 1t, dud that the pmper method .t worse stliL For the Premier, h smoothly and fit well. Flesh or whltc . . $1.39 uoutportsvl, I] said before. the Duncan Com- knows that the measure of the suc- NF“ Brunswick t° m“ “ma” Wu“ b° W m“?! Wmmlfifilon Bll- 3|! "M 501°"! "l! Audit Bolfd. M0,, apparently did not thlulr eels which It achieved was due to "l"- - pointed. “what a. wonderful thin: ‘aid: "wr: nAvr: N0 ISLAND t program mu of u. Dr. Cyrus Macmillan. ‘tho Conservative newspapers and m THE BLANK YEA“ 1t W"?! be. it was suaaested, “i! Gf-‘KVEI- IN THE PROVINCE!“ i‘

would think lu ;the concerted efforts on the part nii we ocu d Bet a Commission appolnt- ( Plblause.) Monday,

pd would 1111161115. [u with the leader cf the Opposi- ‘the Conservative members of Parllaq but I believe sometimes he ment from the Mnriiimea. If any

“Between the years i921, when

ed and have "hZf Justice Math- ieson on it." I attended that meet-

OLD AGE PENSIONS

Wednesday,

M. .

i ruu was another time in hon. member doubts the utdte- "w Wmm-aiwu W” mm by B11 111s. and I recall the suaaestlou . ) $ .

m. he doesn't appear to have uleut. let him so to Ilimsord iol‘ g“ $011M Hi the Domlnlvn- very clearly. “But there is something else in L G Friday t,

[one so. (Laughter) those year-s preceding the uppolue- Phil‘ shill Cgdference, and 193 i _ this Model Budget of 193’ in which ' , _ ,-

qmis claim, 1 ‘may assure ‘my uleut of the Duncan Commission, rd‘ the; zgestxggai%lzii 2131131125;- _ Quota Aunt Board 1 a1: s21: m; 1113.11,... will be mm- Heres a‘ garment that wlll commend your at

bill friend. was presented a on; and he will see where lay after " i e5 - 91' 95° preliminaries approve. hi’. sight. will] made 0f lastei - 1 t be 1 ed.“ n anything done. Doe. the lead-l Th Pre i f Nov scoti —e-i‘te lntin t ch , . _ .

“me ago‘ I woud no sum! s y’ conservative ‘wake: ‘m’ er of the Opposition or anyone as- New eBrungwidlis (knew gust a: 1:211 unable: tzoprovigieotior pzhllyrhgaig yam ' ' ’ stretching Both ways ' ' ' ' ‘ 51A!) 5 30 1.’

u ii was presented in 1912, when lpenker IOSL‘ and demanded this with n got our first $100,000. Certainly a unit-d v~‘c~ until they got ncilcn l"; srnpllhslled by all the Mnri- from the Mackenzie King Govern- aue Provinces in 1820 and it was ment- ‘mod, In so hr a; it related to “While Commission, in 1035. (Mile-ind by Liberals “NOTHING NEW” ‘The attitude of the Government leader at that time may be Judged Many of the speakers on the Op- from the doubt which Mr. King pglfion side,” continued Mr. Mac- expressed, in a veiled way, as to the plug, "have made the statement existence of Maritime rights. in the lint there is nothing new in the circumstances, it was not surprising speech from the Throne. There is, that the Conservatives viewed with decursc, the reference to the "oportxsusplcion the attitude of the King u (boil. lzcccmmlasion thatlv" arr- Government when the suggestion

societed with him suggest that that as did the members d; the Bggrd and child welfare, that our school‘

situation was owing to any lack of of Trade in Charlottetown that the rescuers were Nrolloiutlon by Nova Scotia and Audit Board had not the mquisite that owing lo having ‘no

New Brunswick? The answer be most interesting.

Mr. T. A. Campbell: "Yes."

Hon. Mr. MacPhee: “That is the answer?"

Mr. Campbell: “Yes."

Hon. Mr. MacPhee: “Well, 1 am going i4; suggest that the leader of the Opposition, when he speaks N! the Budget, should make an en- planntlon of the efforts which were made to get Nova Scotin and New

will

authority: and this was the result as reported by the Audit Board itself:

B-Ossly underpaid. gravel‘ and the high cost of importing the same we had not e mile of per- manent. highways-the memoran-

"We have reviewed the various dam proceeds:

aspects of Federal, Provincial and Municipal taxation, their effect and their relation to each other, and as a result the Board of Audit do not consider that they are in s position to advise finally as to an equitable nt of the sub- sldies of the three Maritime Pro-

"And It ha. been utterly im- possible for us EVEN TO OON. SIDER the introduction of Old Ale s, ions.” (Laughter)

‘That little r‘ , Mr. Speaker, throlvs more light on the meaning oi’ tho Llbclui platform and policy

Brunswick in co-operate with him. vinces before n complete investi- “m” anything we w“ d s m n . . my .

("Lame Se?“

Others are-$1.00, $1.79, to $6.50

$2.00, $2.50, $3.50

y

o'clock

piling an increase in subsidy. That cf appointing a Commission was [not "new" in a Speech from the made. lfu’. I wl" so." no ' a‘ ".11: lilmne when e, Conservative gov- Duncan report is a valuable docu-

between the years 1921 and 1930.” ' gaticn is made into the various (AppicuseJ "I may warn him that forms of taxation which prevail the story is known to me, and I am throughout Canada." '

ihundred years. Hcre is the Liberal YEESONALS

platform oi’ 1S‘... prum sing 01d Age

Th‘: “Pmlnlmml W“ Pensions. and n. the light of this

rumeni ls in office, but I submit ment. lronld be quite nf-w in WTDIODB splendidly madc-Ahtough the Lib- lpech if our ' nds opposite wereeral politicians in the Maritime ipower." iApplhilse.) Provinces suzceste; that they were ‘There is also reference in the interfered with and were not a1- beeeh to the reduction in car ferry lowed to consider such questions as nits and a $15,000 grant from Ot- the tariffs. The present Premier of bra mwilrds the labor costs of re- Nova Scotia went so far as to sug- mtructicu at Falconwood. Achieve gest that the Government of Can- umts like that, it is true, are not ads had not liven the in when a Conservative aciminis- a free hand.

tuiou is in power, but they would - lssilinie a decided novelty if they The Interim Report

neared in a Speech from the lime under s Liberal gowrn- “It is, however, diiiicult for any- uni’! (Laughter and applause) One who has studied the r‘ mmis- sion's instructions to understand why they did not bring in a final l report. I hail‘. never had it explain- lieiemnce was made ic the ap- ed to my satisfaction. They confes- pintzncllt 0i the White Commis- sod their inability to deal with the iu. and members on the other claims of the Maritime Provinces llie have, with some exceptions. and to set s valuation on them. and liulmimi the importance of this so they ‘recommended an interim lillll. licwcver it. may seem to the|subsldy increase, pending a lull t-lirnlslllbel‘s.$lofl.00osyear ssxms valuation and settlement. The in- bme i" b‘: n ‘:lr"c s11“. ‘t i‘ c '- terlm subsidy was one that might lhly the largest increase of sub- be increased or decreased: there Iiy which this Province lifts re- was no definite commitment of the aired since we Joined Confcdern- Government to the payment of this “"- emount for all time. The former ‘There have been. of course, vlo- leader cf the Liberal Government W5 achieved in the way c! sub- in this Province expressed um idea ll? increases in the past. The first in discussing the question of our w: was in i887, under the Govcrn- ‘I claims in this Imgislature, when he bent, I believe, of Bir Wilfred Bulii- pointed cut that although they were lluThat was a. subsidy increase of going to pres the matter at Ot- 000, and it was on a claim the tawa. then.- was danger that this of which was the disparlfm in $125,000 interim increase would be

ment this Province was rweiv- cut down. ‘

"I have dealt with this matte: for that members of the

largest Since Confederation

. in the matter of railway con-I u ion, compared with the rest m1; , like Dominion. opposition have criticised the use "ln1901 there was a furthcrr in- by the press of the figures {$750M lme of $30,000. on account of the‘ g5 representing the measure of our "v ion Government's failure to accomplishment in the matter of

m ‘he terms 0! eollleilelltlllll annual subsidy increase under the

wand i028 could not get tlm

on the representntl .

most anxious io see how ingenious- ly he will deal with lt."~ (LaughterJ "I am not saying that to create a

laugh; but the whole ciifllculty was

that the Libe.el Government in this

Province between the yea": 1027

Liberar Government at. Ottawa to listen to them. They paid no attention to they made. They went up in 1927, and the 1927 con- ference had a provincial result,- bnt not for this section of Canada- It resulted in the Western Provinces getting beck their lands and retain- ‘ng their subsidies. I do n~t think ‘he Opposition leader wi‘! deny that." (Applausr) I am not sug- Zestlng that thcy didrfl; put forth a gallant effort; but they were ignor- cd. If the NCWE‘? - ' " to irow just what happened in 1927, they can read the debates in Hansard afterwards, whrn the Uberal Prime

-_..-.. . - v. .

V l‘ . mu legislation was being intzoduc- ed.

THAT "IDEAL" BUDGET ’

“But I must not forget that there was a presentation made to the Dominion Audit Board by the. Lib- sral Government of this Province. I have-here the Board's report, made to the Dominion Govern- ment. Attached to it is a memor- andum filed by the Liberal Govern- rrrnt of this Province at that time. It is designated “Ideal Budget for ‘lien Years, presented by Prince Edward Island." The member from, Tlgnish (Mr. T. A. Campbell) re- ferred in his speech to this model or ideal budrtet. as a "min’mum budnet." Ile has adopted that word since we used it before the White,

v "Just what ‘the va.icus forms of

which we believed war due us, is somewhat diincult to understand out it is clear that this AllLit Barre realired, and confessed, its inabil- .ty to deal with the matter. Nova 500th wnl shrewd enough to s. chat in advance. New Brunswick was shrewd enough to see that in

‘advance. The lender of the Oppo-l

sltlon was shrewd enough to see it in advwae; but he was shrewd en- ough to play n little politics, mo.” (Applause)

"GHDSSLY UNDEBPAI: "

I

“But the most tereat’ feature of the Audit Board's repon is the memorandum submitted by the Government of this Province at that

. time. It is dated, as I said, 0cm er

8, 1930. In dealing with the dimcllt financial position in which the Pro- vince found itself, it states:

“The Province has only two. sources of revenne-Federit- sub-

zldy and direct taxation-having ‘

no Crown Lands, no minerals, no Industries, no tursl resources, no sources of taxation andagrl- cultural products."

“The result has been that we havebeen unable to provide for Public Health and Child Welibrc: our School Teachers and (xvii Servants have teen grossly under- illld—-" (Lauzhten)

"Grossly underpaid, Mr. Speaker! This is from the Government which l a very §a~0-i' Lash, a.» u... 113.110..- ..'on was to be l-lsi-sfllllilill‘ a reso.u-

l llhlln - , g continuous wmmwnw Wm“ Gommmlon‘ mo“ figures Commission with reference to cur Jq; m gm‘ flqujg go o“, gum tho

"(I I mink there was s, string to t particular subsidy increase, (xgmmlggiongy-‘g "pom no not m- l“ "is member from ‘Itcnish correct. Autotheslzslloolulerlmhl- Mod there is to the White orange under the Duncan report, we ssion award: namely, that hgvg placed that sum where it is no lm s final settlement. longer in danger of being reduced. and we have obtained $150,000

m“ ATTITUDES OONTBlMF annual subsidy increase in addition. ED ‘fllerefole it is not incorrect to say

' that our measure of accomplish-

‘iiuw 1 disagree entirely with meue was $211,000. 1 am quite sure

‘v contention. The question ailmem was no intention of misrvpre- -

" "l! (loos not enter Into the saluting the figures by suggesting . because there can never be n that we were going to get that much‘ ‘ settlement. between s Province more than was recommended under. ‘~ the Dominion. If you coniem- the Duncan report. Rather, it was - le ihc idcn of flnslity- you eon- u» clarify the situation by omllhas- Phil: the and of Confederation. lzing the temporary nature of the Ir nmi have no f/mr on that interim award, and the fact that it it is true that the mrnnber was now placed on s permanent Tirnish (Mr. '1'. A. Campbell) basis. and has been supplemented made it clear that he is amept- by $160,000 of additional annual in- ‘ "ill $150,000 increase as final emcee“ l that he regards the dour as ‘ - llc has put himself on rcc- Tribute to Premier to that effect. so that If be (lever be lectod to power It dubs useless to look to him

,1, _1_ ._.. ‘yremsrks

mWhlor-l Our elalrn l; that here ‘lfifdcfltdtlrlll of my case. Put I mcv

g sever be any finnliiv or subsidy say that there was no difficult)’ in "talent or of any other mailer, preetntlfls the case. If Y0" h!" I

fiscal need. But never did we hear it a/pplled to the budget they pres- ented to the Audit Board. They were asked to present an "ideal" budget; and it was an "ideal" or model bud- get, and not a "minimum" one, that they pnscnied." (Applause).

LEA DEFICIT ADMITTED

"This report of the Audit Board is an interesting document, and it is one that the House will study with a greet deal of benefit. For example, it throws light upon the question of Liberal financing. You will recall, Mr. Sneaker, the quota- tion which was rrazl 3y the PJemier from a speech of the leader of the Opposition delivered ‘Ist fail at a political meeting at York, in which< the statement was main that ‘the’ difference between the two Govern-| merits was that the Libczal Govern-

| n "lire lsaderofthc Govez-nmenthsriméce magnate‘: tgizflmfivfiggh tun” Gum“ w” expenamz m f" bee“ 5° um u h’ mu“ “m” °°m' is dated Oct. B, 1930. make’; refer-k gm mgney ho could M trusted with;

ence to this very matter; and this is what it says: i

111s Provinces of Nova Soctin

(whim ‘l’ m“ “W” “Md m ‘he i claim on the ground cf “mllllmum" pay or mu- ddhool Iggohprg u. dorm