Mr. Thompson that the land owners illliiflliiiwd that the options were ended months ago. I-Ils reply was

r v that his instructions were to have " Buflieys made. I told him he would have to set the land owners a5 l

, u ,;,,.,..;. Y Pun. s. 1925 did not think the options gave any

1 . z tteatioiim broiiciiltirwiii or-shl w survey before they were uicli,‘qard of! its serious coia- wifen an. stionmflhiiohrsdiicssin T In 1‘ m" 1115's Mitchell and 1191111111011 came to Prince Edward

lo

.10; tubs essssthsdry n ° snld hssls tbs res; island. They asked why the sun m, Lulu- lrlssilt» Us. veys were objected to, and were

s

THE ‘cmumdrrswows GUARDIAN

have an udcrlor motive hi] h as That. is something new to me

> .- . _ ,1 “Tmmncil- 1° 1-1)‘ and have a say no; this man was convicted in v0 a catcher‘ But l do not 1111111‘ '1‘3118land of a crime ls this Gov-

111 l 1 l _ . _ n a 3° n3 1° wmk 1“ 1-1115 PM ernment or any Government liable

1111119. because we know perfectly well that the people understand

fully that Mr. Sinclair a moi; o! .

110110r and that his character is be- yond reproach. And l say that the ""1191" 1111 =111811surated, if carried tot coil-summation. would have been an exceptionally fine one, That i5 1118 Position that I take in this mitt-

1011i that there was nothing to guy. i", ,

for that act, for stealing or dtfrau- iiingthese people of their money’! that is the position they are iii. No man, no Government, no cor- poration is liable for the crime of its agent, anti so far as the eviil ence in this case is concerned can there be any doubt us to who this man was acting for?

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1119111 w nay One dollar of it. PREMll-ln glilguiAR-f, Mn snenweitncr vriiiuily or otherwise, nus jtqr, l (lid not Uunjn 1n the “m, conceived the object of this resolu-

tion altogether. Li. is not to malt. would bc necessary rm- nu, u, an attack upon any public sian make any remarks upoti the rzsol- "1' ‘my 1111111’ 111' 111W 1491/1-‘71111-"111 ution whit-l, l,“ been no we“ nnn ‘tiiiui want to siiy when tiic Leader lairly phat-gt! berm-e in; Huuun uy of the Opposition suggests a tiling ' the mover and 5Q¢Qn(]m-_ Bu, nnm- 0i that kind he is derogatliig iroiii listening to the remarks. of the m” 1111511111’ 01 111111 11°111‘1'~‘- '1 "t; °11 Leader o1’ the (lposition. it seems 1W1 01' 1111i "$010110" 1| clearly to nit; that non"; reply in neneunu,-y_ stated on its face; it is for the pur- I do not know lioiv it srrikcs you, 9°“- mid 1°? 111% P141179“ 0'11!» 0i

stages oi‘ lfds-(UHCHBPHOH. that it

My hon. friend, ‘apparently, has ,1

der l slii.1il\ cxacti

OF A gu-chsses are made first of sll in the home, where curiosity and

desire are created by the word pictures or illustrations of the Id-

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tipprti:\ nit-iii. i, with iii ey an litirsed Se Ez1‘L_-gl1:si11'1i_ii‘1:11i;1:1fiifthe time ll)! the indication that they have imade know what has taken place idout in favor of the resolution or not i" i" 11"""1fl1‘l11°" 110"" 101‘ 111115 "Km “A 4 ~ - "r1 t.ic._._....' :. 1 -- 1. ‘ " . l a ' “T 111110.28 the laud shouid be paid l0‘; zligzégggftlltflit"oinhilgtol1h1j1l Din-mule]; mmk so! NM ‘HM m" mm Bulge’ m’ He named to hi" but one objefl‘ Pr°vmcc' 385110111“; enfle 8X8 V8 G8 [and puwuun. . -. . ‘ e ‘"11’ ° any rate, until we have a little In addressing this House upon the. My Iioii, friend takes a peculiar 1 ' k ach 05¢, l] ‘F? Mm“ "Y mm 1" ‘he (‘ovemmcnt “r 11'” 1’1'°"1111-'~‘ more light on the subject S1 f-irrcsolutlcn and that was to rrsh to 1111411111111 U119 “T111111 11111111111- 111191‘ submit t1 I [eves slc es|optic1ns esffjtliulzlullldldd “Haifa m” u.) ha? ED116111“ m m” 11.19am‘ as the Dominion Government 11819110 sld of his friend the repreecn-' tiuin iiis rather unintelligible re '"'"'°" G1. 17"’ ‘r-"lu so‘ a.‘ so" Bil-ms hie [My .' .,j,_‘,‘j,_ '3 Wm- mii nnalnre. i153‘ifoflig/mfiiiilnifonéfi concerned, Mr, Sinclair is the same ‘Jaclyn of this Province in the Can 1119-1119 111111» 11B “$11111 1111111 111111 1-101“ l: F. t: h liim and mus so on. He dsiinctiy you tit-ink they should have‘ been-us I might be‘ “r 1'0"’ or My pa“ “i” cablnn‘ He cnmmmmed “"111 eminent responsible‘ 1s ma“ m‘ Th" eh A M sLatcd to trio iand owners at that honest enough to lay that bctoi-e 5011811911089" M“ 596M913 11"“ m“ a'“’1'1“'1"" 111111 1111‘ 111"Ve1' 111 '“91|°“1°"7 1111"“ he suggwl 11"“ once“ ‘L. 1‘. J- s 111119 111111 110 111111 then nothing ti; no the House, but-mu they nuke‘, nu to you hud a fairly good ldeii of a ixcr- the resolution had niadc ii very iiii- 11116 P101111“ 511011111 Pa)‘ 111°“ ggdlnzgfih i," (Continued from pate Six) \i\.i.1l.gDVi:iliilscll.il and was carry- p333 this nenolulnn? My muonmn taln person who was seeking to put warranted attack on this gintle- men out of its cxchcqi-zr? if so, ‘ t f ‘H ---—— ... |'“7“°"" 1115 J11" Drivate schtmes tion is tli-a- i got it. from a fairly a Dfflliositlon up to the pcopic otliiiaii. l do not think that you sir why does he not move an amend gun‘? r > , , _" ' _ , _. . ' ' . n li-i“il om Mn Bu", “finned m Mucheun; '11‘fle owners tht-n agreed to extend iuliabie authority, that [he mu. this country, 0i- uny u mun ownetllor any iiiiiiinci ot this House wilt merit accordingly, and pu. himself was (urwdv presentations, but intimated w Elie cpt.on on payment by M tchcll niier when he visited Ottawa we"; a fox ranch and there was a gen. agree, or could vcry wt-il agree, fairly and manfuliy before this as flgpm ‘M. "Chen u“, nmene was no, muchiore end of the option period. and to one of the mlrristets of the tieman approached you who want‘ with that statement after listening House. Hut at present his only oh- mam m“ n i cilihooil of h's elng_ emplgygdi h Ilwflliy i101 1511111 0f the price at Crownfor this very purpose, to see ed to hire out at this rancn You l0 11111 v01‘? 11111‘ 111111 iirvlici" prcscn- ject seems to be to defend tiie acts emmuI-n the province kowijlg lo lnufl t-Y “SH-vii to give him the privil- ii these parties would not be re- k-ieiv he liiid ~fairly good CIIIIIIGC- 111111111 <11 111v 111111161‘ 11:’ 11111 11Q11-i111111" 11191111 I "nun, n“, nun

. ful cough ., “is silt FUR sauce the land ownena consid- But apart from all that kind of 1 11111 11111 going to say it is up to Mr. Speaker. but I was tit a loss 11111111111110 1'1 P11 811119 111s rescis-

‘ [on befori-ilhaliitrrhwere at uu end lliing. l want to ask you, what noes this Government to reimburse to sec or to know just what [he ui. Government to rflmburse those (UU H3 e, he lafxldtoilviheii" llrocec-ilcd to 1111s resolution mean‘! Has the Pre- 1119116 People. We are not asked to titude of my lion. friend is on this "W" W11° "l" Primlciily 11--11 E . rs together and m.er or any member of the Gov- say that. We are asked to ail: the matter. lie has not declared hiin- "1317" h)‘ K111111111 FY35" M11 asked leave to suive the land d urn e i . ~ Y. .iin 111 nt gven to this llausc any Dominion Government before we self, He has not said whether lie is “=11 ‘"1109 1-1111 1311" W“ 51111119

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U. B. A. $8.50

“Til?

mivcrn- ... was to this (lov- ' Government paid the salary; they

this (‘invent agreed to his employment in that

iinbursed. and that Minister said: tions; from the reputation he lintl

iite of the finances of the pro-f,‘ e °I.“‘“""1'"'14 11 W11 111' 11111 iicc they could not engage in cui.‘-v1{‘,{’:1_‘~;'(;1111;111- l d m , ration work. I n iyit. ustc at is t’me to 1-; returned u, my name n, Em“, Vscrllii: - i in. COlLllibLS oii the rear u m, January 13, and on the>gbfctdll oi 111s [HOIJOJUU survey on llowing day Mitchell came to see “onilmo” 0' 111" 1"~1Y1“5 111 111'! T1119 i‘. iii: thcil stated thnt he prunes, (f! $1110 per acre for the part tak- l to go on with his emigraton ""1‘“Y1"°"11° 1111 111 11111011: 1111i’ ‘iliilllt’ on hits own account. and '"'11‘11118 Should ht. erected or IMP iit ho linti men with means who ”e""1‘"1 3-"911- A 110111110 111' Wuiiii nun] nnuuun-L mu nrnjum; and he|latsr Mitchell Cillllc back Wlln tiap iiipiisieii in any eviaiit to acqii reimf“ 191111163’. 11 161111111 1111111111 111111)’ llii in Prince Eilwurd isiuiitl for "mwr- 1 111W 1111*“ 111111 u! bioti- l‘ siittltiniviit of tlio-st; composing “'1' J','"'~'U““- 11111 11111)’ 1" 11 ¢---1\1111' i- clans of inon whniii he prolios~ “"y‘.,r1'°1' ""11": "i" 111 1-1111 1111111H I to bring to Canada. Mllcliull ""4 hillliilln Uudiuy \r:is_i'i.iirc.-.eiit- ,.,, |,,i,.,,-vu,\y,.u n “dunno, M. nil blyl Nllltiilbil to be lLn‘ agent, who inn, Mr. Williiiiii H. Mayne, to W111!‘ 1'65"“! 111 111111111X 0: Aili- iioiii also he explained his pro- "'1" Li?“ W11" W~111111 >111l1‘-"1‘i_111i-1iii sill-S. 'l‘liii result was tiiut on .1’ s“ 01110111015111!“ 1111 11/011111 111‘- iiiurday 20th January, 1021i, Mlt- “V” b1’ “1111"""~ ii-li took options on tho farnin of “Imwurd 111° end 91 511811111- 01‘ . William ii. Mayne, Mr. i-t-it-r i“ 1111; eibrlvdlnart‘ or September. 311iiian u ey came hack with (311iuuin iin-tlcr and Captain llutliie, both retired Indian‘ army officers. I i iliil not see tlieni. At this tint-c n“, of tlicrc was lumber on the ground. li'.‘~‘i_‘. farms -wi.liiii (llli- your, and 1"" 11° 1101159 11111 1 11101- 1119111 1111-: t the ratc of $100 per iicrc, provid- 1011911211111 1111y but l had no coii- il “iii. if the options were cxecut- wit“ ‘m1 ‘"1111 11191" - - - - - - ii ilfltl‘ May 1, 1021i and tlio crops "Liner 1 111111 9116 01' 1W0 18116113 mild have to be sacrificed. iiay- £11111" ‘1101131611- who 111611 1o explain liylll m" thls uunmue nuuulu be is stun on and to say that nun, by the nnuon noun,”- Lieutenant Jackson was comingas (Mil. SAUNDERS: Now anyone 11118 wii1e11alillilllive. anal‘ would set- lio knows those fnriiis today G 1111 overyt iig. l d not pay .4 oiiiili ri-ziily land lius to some ex: any 11111111" 1111-3111110" 10 'M11¢11911'$ cm dillfuciuiedl known mu, [nose commiin cations. Jackson came in m-uu, u-uniu mung 31W p8,. nun,’ October, when he found one buii- ow. Anyone who knows about the Bnlow completed. Jackson told tlii:

"Well now, before wc eiitcr in... the details of this we will call Mr. Snuiaii-i‘ That was a fair propotai-tion and l ain liiforincd that the aug- gesiilon was met with the answer "i don't think it is iiect-sstiiy." and tli--.- Pfcinior returned, and as a rc- suit nothing was dome, i give you that tic l heard if fioiu u rcilulilc .iui horfty.

lltiilviilaft STEWART. lt is not quite reliable enough, iioiiirliti-r).

Mil. SAiiNlll-Jilib‘: it iniiy not bu, I uin not in the secrete-i of this ilovernuiciit; but oiic tliliig l do say, that if iny lion, friend has any cotntiiiiiilcation in his [Jfllil-llflifliilll, he should iiitve been fuir ‘uiid square about it before lie would try to put before tlic “till-Ht: a res- olution of this kiiiil, wlilcli liiis tlio appearance at any riite of having some ulterior motive behind it, lilv- ery person understands tlic situa- tion, We know the character iiiiil reputation of the man assailed; we know he is above reproiich_ we iiil unfortunately sometimes err and make mistakes; but so fur as my hon. friend saying there were no recommendations on Mitchell's lic- half, whose recommendation would

.we want better than Mr. A. A. Mc-

Lean's or -Mr. iFruscrs. or Lilli)’ Fraser's, the widow of Sir Andrew Fraser?

iiidlR. J. A. IMCDONAIJDI There was no recommendation from Lady

Fraser.

lllilll‘ of land in that locality knows iiil.

iii-ll. J. A. MCDONALD: That iatcinciit and the evidence do not wirro-ipond, then,

Ailt. SAUNDERS: Mr. out: on to siiy;-—

"lii February, 1923, Mitchell nine to Ottawa, saying that he viis not successful iii getting in- ttrtxstvd the people no cxpcgtull vouiii assist him, and would have

to drop his options, and that he litli again approached the provin- iui government of the island who‘ ail now agreed to appoint him ,-~ colonization repnscntatlve. He‘ sketi inc if lic could sue the Miti- tcr _of immigration at 0tiuwa.| itli the idea that the province ight have the bencLt of $150 n

Sinclair

1”" °““"“* 111*" 11° W" ‘Fllreifelfl- M-R. SAUNDERS: i’ pointed it Jig Mitchell, that he was ti ietir- ed naval officer, and that ihc hudiout l“ his atatement~ Rot-iii the first and second of Oct-i MR"J' A‘ MCDONAM): PM“ '1 one], Wm] M10116" in London goblaillst ‘ilnuhis evidence; this isvuntier ting his instructions. I then show-i - ed Jackson my cabiegrain to Mit iubxfi" ‘EI'31ZN3ER‘S€II 16117111] 6111)"! chell of Se t. 27 and told him r- G ‘s o“ < @1115‘ 91‘ - lhEl‘ that fthoutzht Mitchell £11.11 g <M°t11°1‘11\1111= T111111 <1 misrepresented the situation. Jack-W” Y 1'1“ ""1 91119111 111 11111110! son then told me that Mitchell hatli MR- 55111111315115! M11 3111011111‘ I11 not shown him my ca-blegrum, sndinot a man to make a different that if he had seen that messsgelflifliameni tinder 011th: the B90019 he would not have come to Cansdaflvf 1116 Dfflvince understand that, "iii the meantime the Goverii- Are we to go at this thing blindly? 1110M of Prince Edward’ isilandiThese gentlemen say that fifteen tflflflgiicli 111151 the new Prenileinlthousand dollars is only a triiie. “so. m igsénltcittiarg, indicated that-nnd yet they don't tell llfi how this l1 l1 0 “V96! gate Mit- amount is made up. Why don't they 011b1ls 1161-10118. and this lnvestigil- say what the amount actu ll i - "c" 1v“ “"1011 0111- A11 1119 1111111'-we don't know whnt amouthtyuzn

qnih which the federal Depiirt- "Wm-YB flplwarcd and gave evidence ent of immigration allows to pro- 111- 1116 111111 1101111115, except that my

Vlliciiil officers oversriiu when ey are working in harmony with iiiiiiloii iniiiiigrntioii officials.

iclicll, rcctignizeil as u provin- l official, was taken under this vlltie. ' ‘When Mitchell received his tip- iiitmcnt from the provincial gov-- inntnt lie objected to its form in, sport to the wuy in which he was‘ agitated. lie telegraphed me tit he was asking Prcniior Bell have it changed and requested e to assist in correcting it, and 1 February 19 Ltclcgraphcd the cnilsr, Mr. Bell. accordingly. "When Mitchell went to London appeared to liavc some (iiffdilli- with the Dominion Ddrmrtment i immigration there. ant cabled c uccordinglyxi did nothing more an piles his request on to tho tiretnry of ihc Minister of liti- lgration at Ottawa. "'l‘owuid tlio cnd of Jilly I was vial-d from Ottawa of disturbing ports coming from London and at Mitchell was antagouisliig the ipplng conipunlte uiid others. fly in August I was informed en at Ottawa that Mitchell was opped from the list." ‘MR. SAUN-DEIIS: Early in Ang- t; not. as my hon. friend ‘says, dune or July. Mlt. J. A. MODONAILD. That ks t evidence. I take the evidence

re. .1 -R, SAUNDERS: That is Mr.

°W11 119111111: was postponed from 25th. October to the middle of November and still later, when l gave my tvideiice as I have stated.

.."l desire also to say that after the visit of Mitchell and Thomp- son. the sum of 8279 was given by Mitchel-l to Mr. William H. Mayne to pay for the cost of surveying a Ufiflii-Il portion of the pmperties under opt-ion. This survey was made and later on cheques for $500, $300 and 3500 respectively were received by hiin on account of purl of the purchase price of part of the properties of. George H. M-ayiie and William H. Mayne; the balance of these moneys after pay- ing the cost of the survey remains in the bands of Mr. William H, Mayne. Mitchell never arranged with inc at any tiino for tlio erec- tion of any bungalow. l have not profited one cent either directily or iiidirect-ly from tlio transactions of the said Mitchell in Ciinadii or elab- where. '

"i have had nothing whatever to do either directly or indirectly in the promotion of Mitchell's scheme. Any visits I llliltll‘, or communica- tions I have had with the Prcnilcr of Prince Edward inland 0r the government of that Province, or w.tli the Minister of immigration at Ottawa. or with his department. and connected with Mitchell iii tlily way, were done by mo. in exactly the some waynis i might have act-

lost to these men, Why don't they give the items. 'We are asked to request the Dominion Government to reimburse to that extent. My hon, friends mtty have the know- ledge; surely they hnvn n right m place it before the House, so that we will have a proper conception of wli_at we are voting on. It is ab- surd to ask us to vote blindly for fifteen thousand dollars. ’I‘li<»y might as well itsk us to vote for half u million dollars. because they haven't shown how this amount is to he made up. '

If they were sincere the proper course would have been to have in- terviewed the Dominion Govern- ment on this matter; pressed the mutter home, and that dons it was up to this House to make further "lbresentatlon, But no; we don't know whether they have ever gone there, and if they haven't, they cer- tainly had a right to before asking for u resolution of this klnil. Tliiit is thepositlon we flnd these part- ies in,

I um not going to consider the question of responsibility or who 1B 11111-118. but, iMr. iSpeaker, take this very evidence that my lion. friend is so fond of referring to, down to page ten. "The Lieutenant Governor-iniCouncll has been pleas- od to appoint you speclnr represen- tative of the Province of Prince Edward island." Whose appointee

iiuide that he couldn't lie other- wise than ti fairly good stamp of it mun, and in your honest and best Judgment, mipposo you wcnt to the ranch owner iintl said’ tlie reoom mcndutlons hegave were good; he wus woll conuoctctl with iio-titiilso; thnt he comes highly rcconiinniitl- oil to you and you believed lie wus ti good mail; nnd the rancher hired that mun, and he stole half the foxes? Do you tliink you are going to be held liable? 'l‘liv.re can be no Iiutstion, us far its Mr. Sinclair is concerned, that he acted honestly, and every step lie took in connec- tion with that business from begin- ning to end was ilotio with the very Jiest intentions of loiiking after nnd siitc riinitling the interests 0f tlio l"l'l)V1-1l(1i1 We know that for some time past our ciiiiiilry illIH been losing in u t-nrtiiin talent its population. We know tliiit large sums are ex political to pct illlllllflflllllfl, and it was up to- Mr. Sinclair. or any public man, to do the best he could in that direction. Unfortunately while he had the recommendation that this man was a reliable man. yet he himself was tleceiveil. Aiid because. he was honestly deceived. we are hero asked to tiirow reflec- tions and aspersinns on his good character! It ill becomes public men in this country to do a thing of that kind. We know he was act- ing in the best of faith. After that, this iresolution will re-act against these very men who are trying to hesmirch his character, I regret it very much, because I can only set- one object in making this resolu- tion. This order was made 19th Febru-

reprcseiitiitive of dfort Augustus ‘MR. SAUNDLiil-S: Tlint you are (M11 J.A. Nlciitinaiit). lie veiliicd attacking. every statement lie made from the P-IDEMIBR STIEVVART: l Wiilll oviilsucc given bulorc the Coniniis- to assure him that there is no in H1011. tention of making any attack. H-is lt was necessary to mention cor acts speak for themselves, nnd we tuin facts in iii-tier to connect up will let the Province judge of tliiit. uiid support lllt: resolution wlilcii (Applause). We are not trying him iltr wits lllilVill_l',, but iii-yoiitl tiiuti but we are attempting to have a submit my lion. friend did not go, wrong rightcd, to have those men uiid as l said before, .l iiiik lie reimbursed, and to have them reim- made a very fair uiid nipurtial liu-rsed by the Government which presentation of tlio case should reimburse. The lion. llic i14i5i.\\1til' of tlio ()p- The iii-st tliiiistioii is: is there position has made some state- any responsibility? liavo these rr- nients with respect tu iii.-. [Hfiluueli tired Indian officers lust money lugs which Hllillilii have bteti laikidl which Hilllilili be l't*.lii‘.iii lo tliciii‘! before this discussion upon tlio If so, whc- should reimburse 1W1? resolution was oiitorttl iipiiii. it As to the first question. Have seems to me that iii inuklng tlieno they lost money which should be statements my lion. fi-ioiid lias repaid to them? I do not need to shown it most lumeiitnliic luck oi’ go into tlie history of tiiitt, because knowledge of tlio tiroceetliiigs of it liiis been alt-curly very fairly and this IIotii-iti nnd of wliat should fully relatlid by the iiiover and sec- liuve taken plat-e, I would like to under, However, t would like t0 ask upon what pretext the cc-rres- niakc some remarks, iit some pondencc and other information he liiiiitii, iiiiii as tlie licur is getting was requiring could have been latel would iiuw move tlie adjourn- tabicd? I have never seen lnforina- iilLlll of the dcbatn. tion tablet] unless it is either n. Y Upon the debate being continued ed for 0r presented upon tlio dis- in tlic legislature, ‘Milfcil 26th: cussion of the resolution. This res- Piitl iMillQR STEWART: .\Ir. olution was tabled a day or two Speaker, before movliig the nil- ago, Were there any quest-ions plac joiirment of the discussion when ed by my hon, friend, asking for last before the house I was refer- this cw-espendcnce? I have failed ring tn the real object of this res- to sec It. (Applause). if such a olution and I was pointing out that question lufd been plucod upon the the purport oi’ the resolution was order paper it would have been not to m-ake an attack upon nor a fully answered. We have corres- defense of, any particular intiividiial, pontierice, and I would he only too The object was not tn inquire into delighted to show it_ the character 0f any public man; I will tell the lioh. gentleman the sole object of this is to iright ii this, thnt this Government has tak- public wrong and if possible to en the matter up with the Doniin- place the reputation of this Pro ion Government very fully and com riuce again in u clear light before pletely, and we have the answer the eyes of the civilized world. Tlit- and the refusal of the Prime Mln- stibject mutter, as l stated, might