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up tothe Slst of January, 1898, £1,986 15s. 6d., on ae-|

count of sales of land, on the Worrell HNstate and Lot 11; and that the receipts, in the Public Lands Ofiice, up to that period, have c.cceeded the expenditure consequent upon the m inagem ut of the concern, by the sum of £415 17s. 24d. ; the expenses of management altogether—ineluding the sala- ries of the Commissioner and Surveyor General, the amounts paid to woodrangers, assistants to the Surveyor General, printing and advertising, stationery and travelling expenses—

cern—especially at the outset, when the diffiéulties to be overcome, and the involved details, tangled, were so great—the expenditure must, I think, in the estimation of unprejadiced minds, be xecounted a very mo- derate one ; and the amount paid into the Treasury, as muc! us could reasonably have been ea! returns, in so limited a period.

tu add, cannot be disputed, for they are those of the Audi-

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which amount he has paid £370 2s. Thd.into the Treasury : the expe

penses in irred on account of the management of the Pu

increase the amount of those expenses. But, yet, that part of the report, which exhibits the Commissioner’s Accou

Mr. POPE.—The hon. member for Georgetown does not. I should imagine, mean to tell us that the Commissioner has

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penses. And let the Commis-ioner and Committee cut and earve the accounts of the Public Land Office as they please, ] say again, even according to their own shewing and in

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Sp! of theamgglves, the expenditure will be found to exceed the receipts,

Hon. COL. SECRETARY.--The allowance, made, by individual Proprietors, to their Agents, who have little to do

but to receive, or enforce payment of rents, out of which to remunerate themselves for the trouble of doing so, and then

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T. i. Haviland) is to make it appear that both the Account of the Comm ssioner of Crown Lauds and the Report before the Commitice are fallacious, in making it appear that the total amount of cash receipts from Public Lands, last. year, was £2,538 6s. 1}d.; inasmuch as the gross amount of receipts on account of lands sold during the year, was only

follows in the track, and joins in the ery of “ falsification of Statement,” only, very characteristically, with much less candour and liberality of sentiment than have been mani- festea by the hou. member for Princetown, in submitting his amendment. ‘The former seems to have been brooding over “a mare’s nest” ever since he entered the house; aud, now

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nl = ; . ’» if Colonial Legislature. ! 5 certajal id POL ALL LL aL Ll Ll el forming a very false estimate of th ’ Servic: S of these officials ‘<

amounting to only £684 15s. 1]d.; and for so large a con-|

which had to be disen- |

culated upon, in the way of And these fjyures, allow me |

chairman of the select committee on the Publie Accounts,

on sales of Grown Lands, to the amount of £700, and of}

| ‘ ‘ i ‘ ? anaes . al ‘ } Lands, and ought not, thereiore, to be allowed apparently to}

of sales of Crown Lands made by him. Certainly not; for, |

. . . i ; . ; : i . we a eet a cs : i S 2 i‘ bs > . mination ¢ any detailed account of his traveiling eXpenuses, lof, if the Government should purchase as much more land, the |

ta remit the surplus, if any surplus be left to remit, aficr |

pals, in the Old Country, is, I believe, generally £200 a} when the amount paid to individuals, on)

£1957 Ss. 61.; and the hon. member from Summerside |

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Chis is true Liberty, when Free-born Men, having

|belongs, under the Government, to the Commissioner of Public Lands and the Survevor Genera!, and it would, certainly, be

> as weighed against the salaries allowed them and the expenses incidentally imeurred by them, if nothing were taken int

Worrell Estate sid Lot if. Last year the Commissioner mat eales of Crowm Lands to the amount of upwards of £700, (which

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vt veyor General, when he was in the recetpt of a salary of £3 pet)

duties with regard to the Public Lands, especially so catied.

| And, it ought to be remembered, with respeet to the Surveya General, that, although his salary and incidental expenses, are | Wholly charged against the Public Lands, or the Worie!l Estate yet he is not altogether employed upoh, or concerning, those lands; but, for the same salary, is required to perform many | other professional services for the public: as, for instance, the ) surveying and Jaying off lines of new roads, one of which of the | length of 20 miles, in his capacity of Surveyor General, and on |} account of the salary which he receives as such, he completed | last year, besides at the same time discharging all his duties | with respect to the Crown Lands. Now, if a fuir allowance, at | an average rate, were made for such extra official services, as [ have instanced, which are performed by the Commissioner of Public Lands and the Surveyor General, (as most eertainly there ought to be,) it would materially lessen the amount ciifirged against the Public Lands or the Worrell Estate, for the manage- ment, or what is usually called the working thereof. That the

backs, and in spite of every misrepresentation made concerning it, of a most satisfactory and encouraging kind, is quite clear

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Georgetown (Mr. MeDoriald) has jast referred,—indisputable,

cient answer to the complete failure of the speculation, annun-

iated by the hon. member from Summerside, and which, I feel | ives Incurred by him on that acconnt are not @X-) certan , ie so devoutly wishes. lle

has saidthe is willing to

irell state will be spent in collecting it, and that the debt in-

feurred by the purchase of the Public Lands, will ultimately |

have to be paid by the people; but if figures, the most closely

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scrutinized, and deductions, the

| very commencement, make full and adequate returns for tle

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purchase money and the expenses which would be incurred by

| necessary surveys, the bringing of it into proper working orde jand the geaeral management thereof. But now, the jatiators

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which he hunself seems willing to set it, his life must, I think, (be worth but avery few years’ purchase. The hon. member in the present session, has said much, egainst the purchase of Lot 11, by the Government; representing the settlers thereon,

as amost wretched and poverty-stricken class of men, who,

instead of being able to buy end pay for their farfus, were not |

able to buy the common necessaries of life 5 and yet we find sat these very men have purchased 6 1904 acres of ihe Lot, for £2,689 14s. 11d, and have paid en their Deeds £1769. Does this look the ruination, predicted, by that gentieman, with espect to that Lot? No: very far from it indeed | think. The

jthat of freemen. In support of the statement of the financial | siate of the Colony, set forth jn the Report now before ie com- | (the Hon. T. EL. Havijand) there is set forth in a memorandum | the amount, £15,022, due on the sales of Public Landa, although | it is excluded from the Dr, and Cr, Account of Public Lands, jas well as from the general Dr. and Cr. Account of the Govera- |

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the Colony is made appear to be £29,870 ds. 49d., imsiead of | ) £14,869 Bs. 39d., as it is correctly stated inthe Report submitted | by the committee if the £20.550 of Debentures are to be charged |

| against the Colony ; although the time for making that charge) against it, is not yet arrived, as the hon, meaiber for Princetown | jhimself (Hon. T, H. Maviland) has se candidly admitied,

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management of the Pablic Lands is, netwithstanding all draw- |

fromghat indisputable statement, to which the hon. member for

stake his life upon it, that every penny now due from the W or-

necied with it, was so blind as to expect that it would, at ifs |

ses having all been overcome and disposed |

ile value upon hs existence. At the haszard on |

froin Port Hull, Mr. Yeo, had, formerly, much to say, and-even, |

| mittee, { need not, I think, say any more, except that, in the | i

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. , } j rartl: nehae ¢ ‘ .y es y i itis alt j 1eC AS- fj - ~ , = } : r ment, aS stated in that amendment ; sothut the balance against } work, such as a wharf ora bridge. Bat itis altogether unneces- | Crown Lands sales. shou!d not be placed to the credit of the

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‘could not, with anything like a show of propriety, have been placed to the credit of the Public Lands, or the Worrell Estate. The Public Lands or the Worrell Estate and the Crown Lands, are two totally distinct and separate concerns; and however, or by whomsoever, they may be managed, the accounts of them onght not to be blended. ‘The object of their now having been | thrown together is, however, quite evident. It is merely to ‘have wn apparent balance in favor of the Government ; although even on their own showing the balance, m their favor on the Public Lands Aecount,is palpably no more than £39 14s. 7d. Lut if there be brought into the account, as there certainly ought to be, and placed against the receipts, the interest of » £6,000, still due to the vendors of the Worrell Estate, witich, for the last year, is £300, the balance against the Colony will, by myentenlation, be £264 5s Sd. [Hon. E. Whelan—- By your calculation!) Yes, by my calculation ; and | defy the Queen’s Printer, with all his fancied ingenuity and eloquence, io disprove it. “Phe Public Lands Account—when thns rec- tified, by the striking out of the Crown Lands sum of £380 23. 741., (a sum which bas 5een most anfairly placed to the credit of it) ond the charging against it of £300, the interest of the | £6,000 due from the Worrell Estate, a sem which has, quite as ‘unfairly, been left out of the account—will show, as | have | already said, a balance of £264 5s. 5d. agoinst the Colony. Now, surely if this fact proves anythmg at all, it is that the concern, so far from bemg a self-sustaining one, is rapidly i verifying the predictions of those who, from the first, said ut | would benefit nove but those whom the Government might em- | ploy inthe management of i; and would assuredly eventuate

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in the dead loss, to the Colony, of the purchase money. | be the state of the concern ; and, in spite of all mystification land mareouvring of accounts to make it appear otherwise it is evidently us veritable state; if this, | say, be the real state of

the concern, wher all the best lands have been sold, and ali the

of whatever moneys may be due from it, in the expense of col- lecting them; much as the Hon. Col. Secretary would have us to believe, he is amused by the prediction. As to the amount paid to the Cierk of the Councils, for his services, no one, upon this side of the House, is at all disposed to argue, for one mo- ment, that he is overpaid. On the contrary, we freely admit that he is not; still we cannot but remember, when we observe the liberality with which he is paid, what an outery was raised,

ture of public money ; bat now, when the public money is at heir disposal, they imitate the practice which they, formerly,

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lactuated by public principle, and also how httle they have re- |

nent party say, that the £250 2-year paid to the Surveyor

were purchased |] Then why not charge 6/1 his salary to the Public Lands fund? If, after the purchase of the Worrell “Msiate, I say, they revived that office, and appoimted a Surveyor General, to be employed in making surveys of that estate, his

tate. And as for the extravagant allowances or payments mode to John Doivant, for bis superintendance of the construction or erection of certain wharfs and_brdges, j soy thal, notwith

standing his skill and knowledge, with respet et ta such works, |

mav be as great #8 they are represented by some, and, notwith- |

: i r -ind. eamnieaite ve is < nt standing that the work of the kind, completed under bis super | ‘ ] :

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as much, nor pay itm for his services at so high a rate, as they do. Bat it is idle to blink the matter, or to speak at all douht- ingly or obscurely about it. The fact is patent to all: the Go- vernment find that Doirant makes a very pliant and useful | olitical agent : and, as such, he serves, and can well afford {o | serve, them at the rate at which he is. paid, whilst ostens:bly engaged merely insuperiptending the erection of some public |

sary to have either him, or any other superintendan', employed, daily. It might, just ag reasonably, be said that it is necessary for Lieyd’s Agent ta:be daily in every ship-yard while the ship | is in progress of building. A visit, two or three tines a week, from the Superintendant of Publie Works, who lived in the neighbourhood, and who is very well paid for bis services, might

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so vehemently condemned, All that [ have to say of it other- |

yarded consisiency, sinee they came into power, ine Goverthe- |

salary ought, most undoubtedly, to be charged against that es- |

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upon the work, proved to be quite the reverse. I think there is great wisdom and economy bth, in placing a man of Doirant’s practical skill and experience upon such works ; and the Government, instead of being censured, ought to be |commended for so doing.

| Hon. Mr. WIGHTMAN.—The Worrell Estate or the | Public Lands are no sooner alluded to, in any debate in this | House, than certain hon. members start up, one after another, like amateurs at a shooting match, every one determined to ‘exhibit his skill; and the Worrell Estate is the target at | which each of them, in his turn, levels his piece and directs ,his shot; and very glad, it seems, would they be should they |be able to make as many holes in it as there are in a riddle. | I must say that I very much regret the spirit in which some igen. men:bers almost invariably approach this question, for it is not by any means characterized by due candour and mode- ration. The Land Purchase Bill passed this House with the almost unanimous consent of the members; it was passed without opposition hy the Legislative Council ; it was allowed by the Governor; and the Royal sanction was freely accorded toitathome. It is therefore, as was observed a few evenings ago by the hon. and learned member for Charlottetown, the law of the land; and as such it becomes us duly to apply and uphold it. With respect to thé Public Lands—lands which have become public property through the operation of that law —each side of this House has an especial duty te perform, and one, by the due discharge of which, each of them may manifest unquestionable regard for the interests of their con- stituents. In the first place, it is the duty of members on this, the Government side of the House, to take care that the most

the receipts and expenditure, shall be supplied to this House for their information and investigation, and, through them, for the information of the public at large; and this peculiar duty of this side of the House, with respect to the Public Lands, 1 am satisfied bas been duly discharged, as appears by ithe report on the Table. That report, it is true, is not fully concurred in by both sides of the House; but its statemen s ‘are so full and plain that no one con justly say they are

ithe most jealous and searching eyes, yet still in a spirit of fairness and candour. ‘The working of the Land Purchase | Act—the grand object of which is to annihilate the leasehold tenure which has been felt to be so great a grievance by the |people, and which has so greatly retarded the prosperity of the Colony—may very fairly, I admit, be made a touchstone

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and praying for the establishment of a Court of Kscheat, The hon. and learned member for Charlottetown (Hon. Mr,

| Palmer) has said that the salary of the Surveyor General, | £250 a year, should be charged against the Worrell Estate,

because that officer’s chief public employment bas been making surveys upon that estate. He has also skid that the £3S5U, proceeds of last year’s sales of Crown Lands, ought not to be placed to the credit of the Public Lands, because the Crown Lands’ fund is a separate and independent one,

otherwise boen employed in the service of the publie, and therefore his salary should not be regarded as paid to him solely on account of his services upoa the Public Lands, bat as a'so on account of such as were rendered by previous

Surveyors General, when there were no public Jaads. And

ist] less tenable, I think, is the position of the hon. aud

learned gentlemen when he says that the £380, proceeds of

Public Lands, The Crown Lands, since they were ceded to the Colony, as has already been observed by the Hon. the Colonial Secretary, are in the strictest sense public property, They are only a portion of the public lands known by another name; and the Commissioner of Pablie Lands and the Sur-

easily have saved all thetmoney paid to Mr, John Doirant, and | veyor General have just the like public services to perform,

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eW y wire amounts f money have bee ecived ce ; —- ' ' side : SHOWS CEU ly what amount a mt es have sell TeCeIved | rience, ate at all to be depended upon, the concern will, most} what a hubbub was created, by hon. members on the other sids | defective, as respects either their scope or their intelligibility. . several) m ace oF each oO e two descriptions of a 1 , t . is ' :e House, before 1} “ame Into powe accom any | ny . : : + — - i inept j . ~~ unt OF eaen <a _ 2 en “ ‘} assuredly, within the lapse of the ten years—allowed for the | of the ow os BEIATS om aU ones T, SE ORR a0 The peculiar duty of hon. members in opposition, with respect Public Lands; that is, on account both of those especially | gus! y sdine of ite rffaire—hav mplctely clear ff aji | similar allowances, made for suen service. Le services, they | : . : be

; pe ree, awe i ¥ | final winding up of its affairs—have completely clear d off ali) si pt ee iy bs Ry PP vA REE nere pretence, | to all the Public Accounts, but especially with respect to the

denominated “the Public Lan is,” and of those known as its liabilities. No one who immediately sought to induce the | then said, were not required; they ¥ oe SAS Fe rr Publia ¥ atide A tts Botha Mian tt .” edit itt : “ Crown Lands.” | sp culation, or who, from the first, has been immediately con-| whereby to countenance extravagance, and neediess expend:- | F ubile J-anas Account, 18 Goubtiess to investigate them with ;

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co ; “ +" ito aS ha ' ee eet Co ea ee ee! ey ee ieee on which especially to trv the character of the policy of -the °

which might be furnished for our iuformation, we should find | expenses consequent upon the management of the whole, would] Genera; shoula not au be Charged again Me ni ar steed walt nw, : ; : i :

1 : al ; wart e ‘lane —y i a a a a tate| but as they theaght proper to abolish the office of Surveyor| party at present in power. But, whilst I admit this, and so

that the Commissioner had not been quite so unAminaiul oF tue, MW anything, nore than they are at present. The state | but as they tMeugat proj : } beat Lf 1] i | : c '

+: lf fi t te rj } in f ¢ 3 t y ‘ t! 1? f the specu! ition being so satisfactory and promising, if the | treneral whew they came into power, and b fore the VW orre hs. | iar alow the propriety of the course being at present pursued ; imsell as to lorge ) give himseir creart even tor the smail- : me Oa = i eh Sen eee ee es r bre te $ } : tt , an thew de See Pei ae i : +42 :

: of ol oo i I t ee t t tl hon. member from Summerside stake his life against its success,| Estate was purchased by them, because, as they eatd, there | by some hon, members in opposition, Lam at the same time .

Cst amolnt of outiay woich couk brought avatnst the * : y " ane | ty pe ee ee oo a a i ie ha , ] ;

ee ir s ‘ . a , ; : " os “. ) | as he says he.is. willing to do, his computative organ must be | was nothing for a Urvey or szenerant to du. (it rn. C i, Seere fully convineed not only that the scheme was wisely aud ;

Colony, or the Public Lands, uncer the head of offivial ex- amazingly small. (which, however, as respects calculations of }tary—Bat that officer was required when tie Public Lands | i

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r | ‘ ’ : . : sigan’ , | Commissioner bas paid a visit to that Lot, since the meeting of | to the extent to which ihey have been in request by the Go- i Now such reasoning us this, Tam Sorry to say, savours but wecount of such comparatiy ‘ly trifling agencies, and the ex- | ' ' \ i sonenevn.* we he lhe hey have fairly bee vuired | lee 4 Poh .° . a : . . , a ‘d P - 1 aa : jthe Legistature 5 when every one of the purchasers met him oT vernment, and heither when t ey lave harriy een re q rea little, 3 think, of that Spirit of fairness avd ecancour to which wee . : “ ; ) 4a] ag or vs Hore , ne : _ | > % 0 hey ‘ if x ays f é : >| t.°2 ? » penses atten jae thereon besides, are compare with the and ali but three made payments to hin on account of their| ought he to have been paid for them, at so extravagant a rate | poy members, on which side of the House soever they may whole sx penditure, on account of the Management of the larids. Shey were aware of the contemptuous and dixparsging las ¢ ither 233. 4 1 5 OF 17s. 6d. a-cay, Dotrant may be a very l be ought always to con ider and examin su h a sine lt Dosh); : A. OF . . ' ! ces YS : s RS ABN is ie ne mate ( rgnt always s and exaniine sue atters, Public Lands, amounting to 84,254 acres, which, for the! wanner, in which the hon, member from Port Hill (Mr. Yeo)| experienced, good and skxilful workman ; bat he is no more. Se ie tra Ene the present Surveyor General | a hi : : cies = ; : ; , a ote tin (a ; ne cin tiabititte. walk bilidiel.< jis very true thi iC prese reyor Weneral Das, since h last year, is uot more in all than £685; surely, as the hon. | had spoken of them; and great was their idignation against, He is certainly got an educaied and scientific architeet ; and | "* '*") 7 2 4 apt chor ieee). t ; A REE. member for Georgetown (Mr. McDonald) bas said, the ex- | !im in congequence of it; whilst, at the same time, they mest | to pay hin,even s len he is most fairly employed, as if he were 'P! —— Dt. + it grr engaged in making surveys upon moer {or ‘ rye ‘ ois aid) Da si . @x- 1 . : ; ‘ . j oy ed 2 at aie Liles . of ith irre Sots . a is Ww PS | — | penses must, to every unpreiudiced mind, anpear to be kept | ceutefully, appreciated tiie poley of the Government, with) a builder of the highest order, is positively most extravagant j the W orrell Estate; bat it is well known that his public ye! . 1s v ) MUGLE aC nin Appear iO BCL? - : ° ry. : : , } rarrnnteanios 2 2 n} t ) oy 4 y soppy? . re a4 } 7 within a ein mod rate iiicti t The ob} .. of the ‘" jrespectto the purchase of the ownship, whereby they had} aud unwarrantable ; and | hesitate not to say, that, were it not | services have not been confined to that estate, and that he has i t ry erate amount. ne opject of © amends | : : : a as . ee x : , ratal it} i t cee at eet ig ' ee et stat rs ' |been enabled to exchange their state of tenant bendage for | for ulterior purposes, the Government would neither employ him ment submitied by the hon. member for Priocetown, (Hon. |)

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have had the honor to present to the House, there is no al- | @asmuch as the fiaures thereof are those of the Auditors, who} hest ene nis apve be en paid, it gore yet) iar netene { thinks = prone 5g and minute statements, respecting the management +,

ehh Berar: af as | er ee ee Temata certainly will not be suspected of having falsified the eccount to | to Sustain the view taken of it by the Bier, mere ver from Sum- | of the Public Lands and the state of the Public Lands’ fund, ' wance made for » expenses Incurred by the Commissioner | “a8 ; 1. -: . alae ts one onde ; ab » abs

lowance mide for the expenses Incurred by t - er | benefit the Government. ‘That statement is, of itself, a suffi- | mn rside {Mr. Pope) and to render most probable the absorption

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, . j . nae, | Save time, I move that the whole of the report, which [ have} would have done so, i imagine, if public economy had been | with res that he fancies he has found yee indeed, all I eball say pread, ee Toe for that now in the oe a7 the chairman, the only object in view by the Government, when directing that | to the Worrell Estate and Lot 11; consequently all proceeds to him, at present, is, that he is welcome, for me, to sit In ItT or tne committee. the erection of Prince-street Wharf should be properly super- lof sales of Crown Lands must. if at ay Wf { oy: e ol: at as long ashe pieases. As for the fallaciousness, as itis| [Jon KE. PALMER.—lIeecond the motion. When the mag-j intended. With these views, I second the amendment. hs t} 4 dealt of th % p ‘¢ va 1 p i “3 Le oe a 7 Fs

cilled “by the hon. member for Princetown, of the Report! nificent echeme for the purchase of Towaship Lands, or the OPER —" ; ; +a Mab y rp eee? Ge nal eT a ee mg before the Committee with respect to the Pablie Lands, I} Worrell Estate, was first projected, and when it was at length | ear C oo IPE \.— There ee very great difference between Prong arty Aap 3 ~ Moh tare ot Ton ae ie at will eadeavor, and successfully L hope, to show that neither | set in operation, the answer, made to all pradent and cautious | ship-building and wharf and bridge-building. The former a boas f ieee aa reat ' . e Pi cutter og is there any fallaciousness in it, nor could any deeeptjon have | objections or doubts, expressed concerning Ny was, that it would has been reduced toa perfect science ; and is now carried at aes 2 a 0 ot Ay ons 0 Bn ublic sands, be been intended by it. It plainly distinguishes between those | pears a grand pa aun lithe RONeteIgy. remedy for wore anmners | ON ON priucipies so truly scientific, that, when once the mould | piace OE oF dla Puy ta sy aS agulust tue latter, Tie lands which are particularly called “ Public Lands,” andints discoment experienced inthe country; and that it would | and tonnage of a sbip have been determined upon, thej|true state of the Public Lands Accounts—tbat which, wera

ect to them, that they have to perform with respeet

those which are styled “Crown Lands ;” and_ particularly | shows what has been reecived on account of each. The ouly difference between the report befure the Committee, and the amenlinent, submitted by the hon. member for | Princetown (lon, T. H. Haviland) as they respect. the receipts and expenditure of the Public Lands Office, last year, is, that, in the first, besides its being shewn that £1,953 3s. Gl. have been reecived on account of “ Public Lands,” £380 2s. 744. have becn received on account of tales of “ Crown Tands;” in all £2,338 Gs, lid.; and that against this there is charged, Interest on purchase money, loss of land tax, Commissioner’s and Surveyor General's | Salaries, and all incidental expenses, amounting to £1,992 Ss Lid, leaving a balance, in favor of the Public Lands Office, of £415 17 2}d.; and, in the other, tie gross amount, received on account of * Pablic Lands,” is stated to © £1957 3s. 6.., (the amount received on account of “Crown Lande,”’ L380 24, 74 ia being altogether disregarded, on the Credit side, whi st, at the eame time, no allowance or deduction “8 made, on the debtor side, for expenses mevrred by the Com- Miss merin the sale of * Crown Lands,’’) against which amount or £1957 3s. 6. , there is laced, as in the statement contained My the Report, te interest on purehase money, salaries, and 2!! ¢idental exzenses, making it fallaciously, b say, appear that there isa balance,on account of last year, agaist the Public sd Office of £34 Las. 7d., insiead of, as there truly is, a eeded 5 in its wot of £415 Ws. 241. The Crown Lunds, “@ to the Colony, are a part of the Public Lands and the management of them, ag well as of the other Public Lends,

| be self-sustaining from the beginning to the end; and, e | now, in spite of facts which most clearly establish (he contrary

is that a fair and correct balance, or is it. noi? |. say, con-| j j : l Bde . ' *? og petent to discharge the duty. But the case is widely

—facts which all the ingenuity of the Government, and the 5

ven) quantity of timber, planks, and bolts which will be required | it not that party bias seems to turn away the minds of some ‘to finish her, can be determined to the greatest nicety ; and,/ bon. members from a true consideration of it, would, I think,

} ai Phase rie . i ; : ¥ | all....te h: Se cae. Se atone . } ease thick . ; ly iy stage of her progress towards completion, a man who/| be patent to all—-is that which is given in the report which managers of the scheme, cannot conceal—facts the most | at any > a 2 i} :o P e i ,

stubborn and unyielding—we are told it is and will be self-)

|sustaining to the last. ‘The debior and creditor account of the

thoroughly understands the present scientific mode of ship- |

building, may, On a careful inspection, easily tell whether or

is now before the Chairman. But should it be made out on the principles stated by the hon. member from F.inty Glen,

4 ; Sen ott hei ‘ BA OE 3 : ‘side seenis & Public Lands Office, as set forth in the report, which bas been | not the work which has been done has been faithfully and |and with which the hon. member from Summerside seems so

presented te the [louse as that of the select committee ap-| pointed to report, on the public accounts, makes it appear that the working of the scheme, last year, has left a balance of | L415 17s. 24d., in favor of the Colony.. Now, the question is, |

fidently, it is not. In order to shew that balance in favor of

the Colony, they have fallaciously thrust into tho acrount £380

23 74, proceeds of last year’s sales of Crown Lands—a fund whieh has nething in the world to do with the Worrell Estate, or the Worrell Estate wih it. Let that sum be struck out, as | it manifestly ought to be; and then, without at all meddling further with the account, their balance will be reduced to £35 14s. 7d. That may be deemed, almost by their own shewing, the balance in place of £415 173. 2d., as most unfairly set, forth in the report now in the hands of the Chairman. Any common place observer must perceive that the £880, received last year for Crown Land sales, should be kept in a distinet part of the public accounts, and not mixed up with the Worrell state; and how it happened thatso great a quantity of the} Crown Lands was thrown inte the market lest year, it may vot) be very easy fo explain to the credit of the Government. [i fon, E Whelan—Tft happened because they werein demand. Hon. the Speaker—It happened because they were applicd aes for one, applied.) Well, even if £1,000 worth had been ap- plied for, and sold; the money paid on account of the sales

scientifically performed, and wheth@®or not she is progressing

| bridges, at least in contracted for, and undertaken, by men of unquestionable , integrity and of much more thauerdinary kuow!ledge of, and | iskill in sygh matters, they will never be efficiently and) substantially built, except when the construction and erection | of them is carried on under the close and constant saperin- |

“3 to completion according to the original design. Hence, although Lioyd’s Agent may be called upon to inspeet every vessel being built in the Island ; he alone is perfectly com-

et to the construction of wharfs and

different with respect this country; and, unless such works be

tendance of a man thoroughly aequainted with the art, and

who knows exzctly how every piece of timber ought to be, bplaced, and where and how every bolt ought to be driven.

t

he public benefits derived from sueh superintendance, and the public loss consequent upon the neglect of such precaution, were both pretty fully exemplified in the building of the Souris Bridge; that part which was built and completed under the direction and superintendance of Doirant was found to be quite efficient and substantial ; whilst that portion of it, which was built before be was placed as a superintendant

jmach delighted; charging against the Jands not oaly the in- terest due on the debeutures, but the debentures themselveg, to the amount of £20,550, together with the salaries and other

items of expenditare to the amount of £894 18s. 11i., and

land giving credit, not only for the gross amount of receipts on | account of lands sold during the year (£1958 3s, 6d.) but for the moneys due on bonds and deeds, and on Jands sold, but for which deeds have not yet been issued, in all £15,002 1s, ld., aud also for “ the goods on the shelves.” or 45,000 acres of land at Gs. per acre, that is for £13,000; the statemens would shew a balance of £7487 15s. 8d. in favour of the Colony. But, without contending for the correctness of this (statement, farther than by observing that it is the only one which can be made on the principles admitted to be the cor- rect ones, even by the hon. member who has most directly and unsparingly impugned the working cf the Land Purchase Bill or the management of the Public Lands; and without secking 10 prolong the debate on this part of the Public Accounts— with respect to which nearly every thing of any moment which ean he etuted or said, either for or against it, has been fuily brought forward and enforced—I[ wisi merely, ‘in concluding my own observations in reference thereto, add,