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| the whole under his control, and where would be the inde- | pendence of the people? But it is not so great a matter after jall to sell land at cost and charges, for [ suppose tiat would | inelude commission and all. Sir, we have no evidence of that j hon. gentleman's great liberality. We have been told that be cashed a £1000 bill for the Government when they were

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6d sterling an acre. [ wonder if my hon. colleague is willing to sell Lot 31 for 2s ud an acre. 1 would ask how many es- tates the hon. leader of the Opposition could purchase for 2s Gd an acre, when he was in power? The Selkirk estate was bought at nearer that rate than any which he parchased. Lie sees no good in the report of the Commissioners except in

Turspay AFTERNOON, March 25. DEBATE ON THE AWARD (continued.)

Committee on the Award, &c., resumed.

Lion. Mr. COLES, after a few preliminary remarks, said— The hon. member for Tryon seems to be of opinion that the deader of the Opposition should have taken no part before the Commission. lL sappose he is sorry that they paid more at- tentiwn to my statements than they did to his; and that they take the greatest pains to recommend the loan, appearing to

have no doubt that it is the best scheme. Before the adjourn-

ment L read the opinion of Sir Charles Fitzroy in regard to

the fishery reserves. The leader of the Government himself

never thought that these reserves were to be given up to the |

proprietors - therefore, L consider the Commissioners have not taken the view of this question which they should. The re- gulation which they have ma je in reference to securing a small piece of land on the coast, is not, in my opinion, calculated to encourage the fisheries. The Commissioners, when the reserves were deseribed to them, said there was nothing of the kind in Nova Scotia, and appeared to think that this Island might be p! eed on a similar footing. quite different in that Colony, for there all the vacant land is in the hands of the Government, a grant at any time without an arbitration. Tue in regard to the loyalists, it is admitted by all that they had a claim They were offered a certain number of acres of land if they would come to the Island and settle. With a great deal of trouble, they made out to reach here, and endeavoured to get

their claims, but many had to give up andturn to pay rent. 1)

eontend that the Commissioners, by nut awarding that the

proprietors should give up to the loyalists the lands which |

they promised them, particularly as it was to be a compen- gation fer arrears of quit reat, Lave done an injustice both to these refugees and the Colony. The Award gays: -* The Bri- tish Government having for s@ many years provided for the Civil Listet the Colony, the Commiss oners would respectfu ily euggest that the Provinemal Government mizht, we & st ll sacrifice, dispuse of this eld vexed question. Chis, Sir, is perhaps the must unjust part of the whole Award L consider it is very walaic to say that because the Uritish Governinent

provided for the Civil List lor so lung a time, that therefore the |

ésevernment here should give compensation to the { ryalists Ghe Home Government had a right to pay the Civil List, when they lett little or no Crown lands at the draposal of the Colony But the Commissioners say that the loyalists may be compen eated oat of the lands bought by the Guverument under the Land Purchase Act. ms

Mr. DAVLES—That is not a part of the Award, it is only a suggestiun.

lon. Mr. COLES—It is among the other parts of tho re- port where the Commissioners *‘report and waward’’ respecting escheat and other matters.

Mr. BEER~—1t is only a suggestion.

Hon. Mr. COLES—Weil, the whole report is 4 suggestion. Again, with respect to the Indian claims, I believe the Com- missioners report and award in regard to them, and confirm the title of those people to Lenox Island. New, I have heard that Mr. Stewart paid 300 sovereigns for that island ; and if this be the case the Commissioners ought to have requested ths home Government to compensate bim for his outlay, for why should one proprietor be made to give up his claims and mot another. Ido not say that the Indians have no right to Lennox Island; but that Mr. Stewart should not have | treated differently from the other proprietors. But if we are guing to confirm the Award, | mamtaia that we should pass an Act to guarantee the interest on the loan. The hon. mem- ber for Charlottetown, Mr. Beer, appears to have great sym-

athy for the district which I have the honor to represent ; indeed he almost spoke as if he was already elected tor that district, and as if Charlottetown might look out for another, which | believe they are intending to do whatever. At the meeting held in that district the members uf the Government present said that they had ne intelligence of the Award. I tuld them they would certainly have little to say for them- selves, unless they could show that they had written a public despatch asking for tue Award. And it appears that His Ex- cellency did write a private despatch desiring His Grace the Duke of Neweastle to forward a copy. 1 do not wish to take credit to myself in the matter, or to say that the Government acted on my advice; but it looks very like it. What does the Duke say in winding up his despatch? He states that he could not recommend the loan, and that, inthe meantime, he only sent a copy of the Award. He does not seem w desire that any action should be taken upon it. If the Go- vernment are not going to take the whole Award, I shall cer- tainly vote against any partial measure. I understand that & proprietor bad a mectiag lately with his tenants and offered to let them have theie land at 15 years’ purchase. Sir, that is better than what is provided for by the Award. The only thing to be gained by it, since the Duke bas given his veto to the arbitration clause, is the remission of arrears of rent, un-

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ietore who did not agree to the Commission, are not to be Sonne in, so that though it be confirmed, but few of my

comntacni wll ap any Inoet foe the Aart. The bon | gow ihe intention of the hoa. mouber. Now he says we) prominently’ forward in the Award if we apy frit we

interests of the people, and the hon. member for Bedeque has been arguing in the same strain. But, Sir, what have their party done for Repner since they came inte power? Look at the Journals and you will see thatall their votes have been Against the or they have gained nothing for them but oppression, au there has been plenty of that. Phe Small Debt Bill which thay passed has caused a great deal of suing in the country, and ‘L believe their own friends are now ask- ing thes te repeal it. Now the honest poor uian cannot ge credit.

$ic. DAVIES—There are no honest men who cannot get aredit. :

Lea. Mr. COLES—J do not think some poor men will ; but { beliewe that youre of the Small Debt Commi-stoners appoint ed by the present Goverumest, are beginning to evn pl ain tht ainee the Act came iate eperatiuon, they Lave scareely any- thing to da.

lion, Col. GRAY—I rise to a point of order ; the questi an befure thie Cemmittee is the Award, and not the Small Debt Azt.

dlon. Mr. COLES—Why, Sir, the bon. member who has just sat down went off the sabject this morning to talk about the school he attended ia his young days, which | think has not much te do with the matter beture us. The real question is what the next election is to turn up; therefore it becomes us to examine what each party Lave done. Sir, I feel for the

wor man, and the late Government did more for his benefit

than bawe the present administration. They passed the Free Educative Act, and men have since become educated here to fill theig plaees honorably as teachers and ministers of the g*pel. rith re-pect ts the people of Belfast, the question

Liege is religious agitation, and that and some other influ-|

euces have turned them against the Liberal party; but, Sir, I beliewe they will get have their eyes opened, tn other ports of the county, where the L and Purchase Act lias « per- ated to the bagefit of the people, they have not been so un- grateful. With respeet to the 1500 acre clause, { would ask, éf every proprictor ia te be alluwed to retain that mach land, what advantage the people of West River are going to derive

But, Sir, the case is |

and fishermen can obtain |

j about purchasing an estate : that the interest which he charged was 6 per cent. jalsothat some £60 have been paid to the Bank. ‘not have been better to have had the Loan Bill, and then the money would have been drawn from the Bank of England at a much less interest? Look at the other Provinees,they have | been apylying for ay Imperial guarantee. ; Mr. DAVLES—They have to pay their 10 per cent. |} Hon. Mr. COLES—No, Mr. Chairman, I see it stated that | Nova Scotia and New Brunswick bills areata premium. They / have thas, by going to the British money market, got their | public eredit established. How much better it would be for this Colony, too, did our paper go at home for £100 or £112 per cent. I said yesterday that I was happy we could meet on the same ground—that as the Liberal party were in favor of the loan, though they were opposed to the part of the award relating to the fishery reserves, and some other things, yet they would waive these objections in consideration of what | would be gained by the loan; bat, sir, when [ hear that the Government are not likely to go for the loan, and that they are saying that if is no part of the Award, I shall content | myself with voting for the amendment which Lf have submitted, | in order to test the Government. | flon, Mr. LONGWORTH—I do not intend to answer the | lengthy remarks of the hon. leader of the Opposition, nor of | the hon. member for St. Peter’s: bat U shall correct, or rather } contradict, some of their statements. We purpose to confirm | the award, so farasit can be made binding; buat though these hon. gentlemen cannot complain of our liberality on that point, yet they seem to be of opinion that some capital can be made by separating the loan part of the award from the rest, and submitting a resolution to the effect that a Bill should be in- troduced to guarantee the interest of a loan. The Commis- | sioners had no-power in reference to the loan; all their powers }were exhausted when they @uggested that it should be gua- | ranteed by the British Government. It is stated that we are opposed to the loan. The Government have said nothing of the kind; they have submitted such a resolation as will allow them to secure the loun at any time. + lion. Mr. COLES~—We wish you to do that now. Hon. Me. LONG WORTH—l1 will come to that point before

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leaves it open to take up that matter at uny time. But did we require a Commission to apply to Iter Majesty's Imperial (Government for a loan? We had power to apply for such ours:lyes as Her Majesty's subjects. Tlie Commissioners have. howsver, recommended it, and we can take it up at any time. The hon member for Princetown, Mr. Sinelair, has pat the matter ina very clear light; the way which he did so does credit alike to his ingenuity and to his standing as a member of this Touse. We are under no necessity te rush headlong in for the loan; but by confirming the Award, and getting the arbitration clause to work, the Joan might afterwards be found useful. It would be difficult to obtain a loan in Eng- | land, if capitalists found that it was tu be taken up in drib- lets of £500 or a £1000. Go with such a proposal to the | Rothschilds and they would laugh at the idea. If we were | going to take up @ loan in such small sums, we would require to gu to a third rate capitalist, and he would charge six or seven per cent. When we are prepared for the loan, we may get the whole £100,000 for some 4 per cent. In reply to the bon, member for King’s County, I must say that I give him credit for consistency in regard to this matter of the Commis- mission, and for the able manner in which he has advanced his views; but, Sir, we have seen them all in the Laaminer during the last few wonths. before the Committee, he says it does nut appear to be the in-

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after going on fur some time, usked if we were going to stul- tify ourselves by any action on the Award, in face of the ob- jections made to it by the Duke of Newcastle ? But are we,

because his Grace objected to one or two clauses, to take up our) pep for Ning’s County asking us to stultify ourselves by re- | from Is, up to £50. Those that had £50 could go to the

hata and walk out of this House? Have we not the right to

discuss the whole merits of the case, and then legislate on the | are satisfied with the Award in every respect; but are we | sufficient range.

matter. Are we to possess the rights of free men, or are

but [ see by the public accounts I observe

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long. The loan is oniy a recommendation, and the resolation |

| the first recommendation of the Commissioners.

With respect to the despatch | fiouse ; but, Sir, bshali not hold out any threat.

| Hon. Col. GRAY—I do not hold out any threat. tention of the Duke of Newcastle that we should take ang | would test who are the friends of the people.

He passed very smoothly over that part | which says that itis to be laid before the Legislature, and | ter.

the loan part, because the Joad is his hobby. I agree with the hon. member for Charlottetown, that the loan forms no part of the Award.

Hon. Mr. COLES—I am glad the hon. member has made the statement, because he said his resolution was to confirm the Award, and now he says that the loan is no part of it.

Ifon, Col. GRAY—The first part of the report of the Com- missioners is the evidence brolight before their Court, and the last is their decision; and I would ask which of the two is the people most interested in? Supposing we could get the loan—suppos ng we had the £100,000, what benefit would it be? Would one proprietor sell his land for 2s 6d an acre?

be a separate matter, but connected with the Treasury. In

tbat department, and he thought the Bill made no provision for their additional payment.

The Bill was then read a second time and committed. Hon. Mr. Kelly in the chair.

Mr. BEER was happy to think that such a measure was before the House, and considered it would be a great benefit to the poorer class of the community if it were only carried into operation. hese institutions had worked admirably in the old country, and he thought one could be conducted here 80 as to be an advantage to the Colony in different ways. The Bill provided that the interest allowed the depositor should be 4 per cent.; the Government might give 5 per cent., allowing one per cent to the Deputy Treasurer for transacting the business, and then employ the money with

Would Mr. Bruce Stewart, or my hon. colleague, if inclined to sell, give their land for 2s 6danacre? Suppose the amount | given for the land was 7s 6d an acre, as limited in the Pur- | chase Bill, what price could be set upon it to make it pay ?} What we want, in connection with the loan, is a power to} make the proprietors sell, and that at a reasonable rate. Would it not be pradent for the hon. leader of the Opposition to get the proprietors to promise that they would sell at 28 6d an acre, before we borrow the money? Because if we had the £100,000, and could get no land to purchase, where would the money go? Echo answers where?

Hon. Mr, COLES—The money would not bo drawn unless it was required.

Ion. Col. GRAY—I ask any financier if money could be obtained on such terms, Though [ generally differ with the hon. member for Princetown, as he is my political opponent, and has sometimes, I think, treated me harshly, yet, Sir, I agree with him in bis yiews on this question, when he says we can purchase land at any time under the Purchase Bill. This is what | have been advocating. The hon. member for King’s County has been boasting of the return of his party at the next election.

Hon. Mr. WHELAN—What I stated was that I believed at the next election the country would give a good account of the position of parties in this llouse.

ilon. Col. GRAY—I do not see much diserepancy between | the statements. [t is impossible that any person ¢im know by | intuition what shall take place at the next election. It is in| the womb of futarity, Bat [ am willing to test this question | now. Lam willing to test who are the friends of‘ tie people | | te night, and sce how many of the hon. members of the Op- | position will vote fur the resolution which I have submitted. | L would like to see them vote against it.

} Hon Mr. COLES—The hon. member appears to think that some of the Opposition will support his resolution. Those on this side of the House never pretended to oppose it alto- gether, when he said it was to include the whole Award. But } bow we have his statement that the loan is no part of the ' Award ; and his resolution does not refer to the loan at all. 1 cannot let his statement go forth to the country that if we obtain the loan we shall have to take the whole atonce. This is Only to mislead the people. The hon. member for the se- cond district of Queen’s County said that the Rothschilds would not give a loan on such terms. 1 do not say they would; but I maintain that such a loan as we require would be a great benefit to the small capitalists of Britain. The | loan is the first matter referred to in the Award, and my re- solution is in favor of a Bill being introduced to carry out In reference | to the concluding remarks of the hon. member for Belfast, | }may say that I believe we will stand as well before the coun | try, at the next election, as the supporters of the Government. lie seems to hold oat a threat to those on this side of the

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Hon. Mr. POPE—TI do not intend to say much in this mat- ] consider there is scarcely any alternative for us, but

% to leave the difficulties between landlord and tenant to ar- bitration. ° ° ru . ; jecting the Award. The question, Sir, is net whether we |

doing our duty as honest men to set it aside. He, however, |

we to be mere serfs? In respect to the Elective Council Bill, | argues that we should apply for the loan. If we were to ap- | | that hon. member said we ought not to be such serfs as to be ply for it only, what would the British Government say? tied down tu the opi.ion of the Colonial Minister, and that | They would say these men are not be trusted; they asked

he had a constitutional right to express his views on the sub-

equal right to state our opinions and legislate on the matter under consideration. But be is opposed to legislation in refe- rence to the Award, because the Duke of Newcastle did not give us a carte-blanche upon it. When the hon. leader of the Uppusition presented his resolution yesterday, there was some consistency in it, because then we understood that he was in favor of tonfirming the Award and guaranteeing the loan in the same bili; but now he appears to be in favor of a sepa-

| the hon. leader of the Government, because I believe it is to

\for an arbitration before and would not abide by it; if we a : , : ae ject. Lagree with him there, and also say that we have an/ guarantee them a loan to-day, they will object to pay it to-| He likewise considered that if public opinion took hold of | morrow. | Mr. QOWEN—I shall support the resolution introdacea by |

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take the Award and get all outof it weean. I am, however, | not of the opinion entertained by members of the Government | that no benefit is to be derived from the loan. I think it is| the part of the Award which is to do the most good. I do) | not consider much is to be gained by the arbitration clause. |

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advantage in buying up Treasury warrants. He was of Opinion that such a bank would be a greater benefit to the people of the country than those of the town, particularly if the Award of the Land Commissioners came into operation ; because then parties desiring to purchase their farms could lay up their money in the Savings Bank until they had sufficient to pay an instalment.

Mr. DAVIES said something considerable would have to be given to the Treasurer for his additional trouble. The Bill should be made self-sustaining, as the country could not afford to pay £100 or 20 out of the public funds for such a purpose.

Hon. Mr. HENSLEY remarked that the principle of the Bill appeared to be a very good one. He understood it was intended to allow the Deputy Treasurer £20 a year until the sum deposited amounted to £2000, after which it would be self-sustaining, the only cost being the expense of paper.

Hon. Mr. LONGWORTH said this matter had been for some years before at least one branch of the Legisiature,and, judging from the pertinacity with which it had been adhered to, they must have been impressed with a sense of the ne- cessity of the measure. It had not met with mach favour from hon. members of this House, which resulted he thought more from want of consideration than from any opposition to the principles of the Bill. When an institution of this kind was established, the poor man had a place where his earnings might be kept safely; and he thought such a bank would be a benefit here, as the smal! farmer and the artisan would then have an opportunity of gaining interest on what little money they might at any time have at their disposal. He was of opinion that the [louse should not hesitate to adopt the measure, providing it did not entail any burden on the country, There were some details wauting in the Bill, which the Legislative Council could not take up as it was a money measure. But it was intended, as explained by the hon. and learned member for Kast Point, that £20 should be paid to the Deputy Treasurer per annum, until the sum de- posited amounted to £2000 ; and as the interest to be allowed was 4 per cent,there would be a difference of 2 per cent which would meet working expenses. All that the Government would have'to pay would be the little expense of stationary and printing. He thought it would be well for the Deputy f'reasurer to-appropriate one day in the week for this busi-

Hon. Mr. LAIRD asked if the Deputy Treasurer would

undertake the work,

lating to the recovery of Small Debts restricting the imprison-

that case it would impose additional duty on the officers of | ment of debtors to sums over £10, may be repealed or other-

wise dealt with as to the House may seem meet.

_ The House then went into the order of the day fer taking into consideration the petitions lying on the table,

Ali the ordinary road petitions were severally referred to the members for the different distriets.

_ The petition of divers inhabitants of Caseumpee and its vicinity, praying a repeal of the section of the Small Debt Act restricting the imprisonment of debtors to sums of £19, having been read, it was resolved that the House go into a Committee of the whole to consider the prayer of said petition. The several petitions on the table praying for a similar object were referred to the same Committee.

Hon. Mr. PERRY said when this clause was introduced inte the Small Debt Act he did not think a change would be re- quired se soon. Ile believed, however, that it had worked well enough. When credit was too accessible it was no ad vantage. He could prove that there had been far less sueing in his part of the country since the non-imprisonment clause had come into operation. This was a benefit, because when merchants took it into their bead to sue there was a great deal of expense connected with it. If persons could not buy any- thing on aecount of this clause without paying down for it, they should become honest men, and then they would get credit, He was aware that last year there had been scarcel more than one-third of the summonses issued compared with what had been in former years. Je could not su port the re- peal of the clause, unless he heard good reasons brought for- ward for the change. -

Mr. HOLM remarked that the hon. member who had just sat down was the first person whom he had met that was sa~ tisfied with the clause. Ile (Mr. I ) thoaght it had worked injuriously to all parties. The hon. member had said that there was less sueing than before; but probably the reason was that the debtor had set the creditor at defiance. It ope- rated against the poor man’s getting credit,because morchauts sometimes did not know who were the honest men. Le thought it would be the duty of the Mouse to repeal the clause inquestion. .

fion. Mr. POPE said when the last amendment to the Smait Debt Act was passed it was considered a great advance in the seale of civilization, it being thought almost barbarous to im- prison a man for debt. Though the hon. member, Mr. Perry, says the people in his district are satisfied with the Act as it now stands, yet here is a petition signed by about 1000 per- sons, and most of them are his constituents, praying for a repeal of the clause referred to. It is not only signed by the merchants but by all classes of the community. [The hon. member then mentioned the names of some parties who had signed the petition, and gave a case or two where parties had come to the Island, remained a short time and did business, and become indebted to several persons to an amount not exeveding £10, and then went off with the money in their pockets.] He thought it ought to be placed in no person's power to set creditors thus at defianee. It was no more just that an individual owing £9 19s. 114d. should be allowed to get clear than one owing £10. 1 will sumit a resvlution on this matter.

ljvuse adjourned for one hour.

Wepvespay Arrernoon, March 26.

Mr. DAVIES advocated the repeal of the clause which, instead of working beneficially, had the effect of preventing credit being given. While he approved of the principle of the clause, and was reluctant to adopt « retrograde principle, he was bound to say that the clause was not applicable to the country.

Mr. MeNEILL could see no reason why, if a man was Jiable to imprisonment for £10, he should not be liable for £9 19s. {Le operation of the clause had been injurious. It had pre- vented worthy, but poor men, obtaining necessary supplies.

Hon. Mr. LONGWORTH thought he would have no objection to take the office with the additional remuneration. |

Hon. Mr. COLES bad no objection to the intention of the |

Bill, but ; Seal | to confirm the Award, Since this Mouse agesed-by.a voto 18 to| Sil], but thought the plan contemplated would certainly give | tya¢

a great deal of trouble to the Deputy Treasurer, as he saw |

general bank. He thought that between 5s. and £10 was a The interest allowed at the Bank was only 3 per cent, and if £50 could be deposited this way on (io- verument security, there would be a rush to the Treasury. Hoa. Mr. HAVILAND also thought that 1s. was too

trifling a sum to enter, and that 10s. was about little enough.

the matter, keeping the accounts, &c., of the Savings Bank would take up more time than the other business of the Treasury. Besides, it would be a loss to the Colony, be- cause, as the mouey might be called for at 8 days’ notice,the Treasurer would have to keep a large amount in hand, in which case he would be able to invest very little of what was deposited in the public funds. That the sum of £50 should

|rate Bill, which is quite a different matter.

leas the Joan can be obtained. {t appears also that those pro- | however, I suppose was made to gain the support of his friends. | proprietors would not sell ; bat we saw that some of them did| by the hon. leader of the Opposition. :

This change. | [t was said when the Land Purchase Bill was passed that the | be received was perfectly ridiculous, as was justly remarked He was of opinion Hon. Mr. COLES—I did not say it was to be @ separate | soi]. I shall support the resolution as brought in by the hon. | that a bank of the kind was very little required in ‘has eden: | Bill, but | understood so. member, Col. Gray ; and if the present Government does not | try, where Treasury warrants could be obtained. But this

| Hon. Mr. LONG WORTH —Ie is impossible that we should | go for the loan, perhaps the next = I think, as it is set) was a pet scheme of the President of the Legislative Coun-

must have a separate bill. ; | shall probably be successful. Near the last of the Award the cil, an. it was @ pity if, after so many attempts, his desire Hon. Mr. COLES—If the Government think they can carry | Commissioners say they ‘*cannot close this branch of their re- | could not be gratified,

it out in one Bill, L have no objections that they should do} port, aoe again renting their ne a Hon. Mr. McAULAY said the princi

oS iia chase of the estates, by the negotiation of a loan through the | Bill appeared to be that the Sayings Bank would take up the fon. Mr. LONGW ORTH—It would be folly to attempt Imperial Government, presents advantages so manifest that) time of the Treasurer, and cause him as much trouble as his

anything of the kind. LI will not follow the two leaders of | they cannot too strongly recommend its adoption, in prefer-| other work ; in which case the question would be, should he

the Opposition through their objections to the different parts | once to all other plans for the settlement of those unhappy | not receive double pay? If this had to be dune it was more

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of the Award. This subject has been thoroughly ventilated | disputes.’? They thus recommend the loan in the strongest | than the country could afford.

- . . | . in the Colony ; aud now the report of the Commissioners has | terms. Let as then confirm the Award, and Jeave it tothe! Mr, COUPEE thought it would be well to leave the emall-

been printed, and the people can judge for themselves, These | country at the next election—which I hope is not far distant | est sum that could be received at ls., because with some | ‘ | labouring persona, if they allowed their money to lie until it | ! The question was then put on Llou. Mr. Coles’ amendment | amounted tw 5s., they might buy something With it they did | whose inability to pay a debt had arisen, not through dis-

two hon. members denounce the Award, but what remedy do! — to decide whether they are in favor of the loan or not. they propuand ? They have come forward with nu scheme in} eu of it. Lhe only proposition which they bring furward is | in reference tu introducing a Bill to guarantee the interest on | got require.

the amendment of the hon. leader of the Opposition, and that) 4 Joan of £100,000. : | Mr. DAVIES said it should be ascertained whether the is included in our own resolution. ‘ihe Commissioners felt) For the amendment—Ifons. Messrs. Coles, Whelan, Kelly ; Depaty Treasurer would undertake the duties which he would that they had a difficult task, but they have given a decision | Messrs. Conroy, Cooper, Doyle—6. } be required to perform under the provisions of the Bill, He which f think will be received with favour throughout the Against it—Hons. Col. Gray, Haviland, Longworth, Perry, | thought it would be quite proper to reecive sums as low as length and breadth of the land. I feel confident, at least,that) Thornton, Hensley, McAulay, Wightman, Speaker, Yeo, | 1¢., because it was well known that there were improvident the upinion of the gran’ body of the people is that the Award Pope, Laird ; Messrs. Sinclair, Owen, Douse, Ramsay, Mont- | persons who would spend their money if they had t» allow it should be confirmed. The 1500 acre clause may not be such as) gomery, Beer, J. Yeo, MeNeill, Howat, Holm, Davies~23. | i remain until it amounted to 5s. ‘Tt bad been stated that we could wish; bat the res ne the A ward he rejected tlun Mr. Whelen then moved, in amendment of the resolu- on account of two or three objectionable parts 7 cut and carve it; we must take the whole Award. One of) preamble, and at the end thereof insert the following :— spoken for before they were issued.

-% pated ae _ og > - oo. sth caps, “But it does not appear tu be the intention of the Secretary} Mr. BEER would go for the sum being as low as 53. The at sant. - - woul en “ big yen ng wiser = ” | of State for the Colonies that the said copy of the Awaid interest on that tura year would be sd,which would be easily lected for 15, 18, or 20 years bac x, A n some estates the ar | a1 uid be made the basie of any legislation for the present, caleulated. Me thought the Bill would bring a great deal of rears haye accumulated to £20,000 ; and these the Commis- inasmuch ae that His Grace has not submitted the original | money into circulatiou which was now laid up. i That there sioners have struck off by one be of the pen. 1 give the | or official copy, nor intimated any desire to have tbe printed / Was money in the country was shows by the circumstance hon. member for St Peter's cre i for his consistency in Op- | copy conGrmed by the local legislatare : And whereas, the Se- | that quite o number on the Selkirk estate purchased their posing the Award, but 1 cannot give him credit lur suggesting cretary has declared, in his Despatch of the 7th February, | farms, and immediately paid in the first instalment. He was any other remedy. | 1562, that one of the principal provisions in the Award, of opinion that not more than £10 should be allowed to be

lion. Col. GRAY—I stated yesterday that no amount of | namely, that in reference to loca arbitrations, is open to | deposited in one year, iu order to exclude a certain class; but speechifying could weaken the matter before us; the Award | ++ insuperable objections,’ which he proposes to obviate by still he thought the sum might be allowed to esonmatote to is aa accomplished faet. My resolution in fayor of confirming some * fresh suggestions’ at s future opportunity—thus ma- | £00, as then the poor farmer in she country might be enabled it is before the Committee,—vote for it or not. Some hon. | nifesting his desire that legislation on the whole subject of | to collect as much #3 would purchase his farm. members do not agree with we, but I have not heard any | the Award should be postponed: And whereas, the recommen- Ion. Mr. THORNTON said a Bill af this k nd was brought sound arguments to show that Lam w error. The hon. mem-| dation for a loan of £100,000, 60 earnestly arged by the Royal down some years ago, and the principal objection to it then ber for King’s County favored us this morning with a lengthy | Commissioners, in order to buy out the claims of the propri- | Was tuatit would encumber the Treasury. If those whe in-

parties wishing to lend money could get Treasury warrants. | vote in favor of the repeal of the clause. We cannot | tion introduced by Hon. Col. Gray, to strike out all after the | his was not the case, as it was well known that they were | were signed by many others than merchants. |opimion that many people took eredit who need not ask it. | Le trusted that every senenes would be taken to prevent

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se 5 leade e che ennnthe ‘ ileal i the Award, as Me. Wright and one or two others who ject. Ag for the hon. leader of the Opy vition he makes such rom the . a a 1500 acres. Then again = rular statements that | am forced to believe that he draws hold land there, have not move hau Lo0U acres. hea ag oe : hy atin Aieatie aiid tlhe aaa oe re her eecctions of the country, Lady Georgiana @pon his imaginati on for bis facts, an that Imagination Is a) ven a Sse abl ty the Comaizai m; and the proprietor ™os¢ fertile one. What have we to do with the Loan Bill,the| a oe : ; . : ’ em: ae © save e su biec sfe > | of the Beifast estates though he agreed to abide by the Award, Micmac indians, and ove ral other subj oe re fe oe the | vet aa he has since suld his estates to the Government, it will hon. repeat ‘ ne Sapa eeennee mace no awar with | be no b wetit ty the people in that district, There is also the Tespect tosuch. The hon. member states that he understood . vy bene “a tne opie a . res Ce _ ‘ itrats ha te hia league of the fun. leader of the Governwent im this Llouse, t had offered tu become an arbiteat we for the tenantry. Thi: oat Geen ling & ‘come under the Award; but as he has 8 but the fact, for I never wade an offer of the kind. Le woe or hich eed a his property aad has & fer re family, he also says that [ stated that the land on Lot 34 is worth 20 ~4 = : , Sehaliiedl aa he thinks} ruper in the case Theu years purchase, but that the land at Belfast is not worth so # quite rigi ac Sprup ’ ceili v2. . i a —_— » Dee, 7 a wie seapect to New London, the Tuwnslips there have @U bh. W hat 1 did say wil he found at page o - s I - lon divided ap inte fuur or five differen: properties, conse- eomenny poe 7 2 ag Rid lenge gE ier athe the tenantey ia sbas section of the island eshuct cg-| YO8s. Whe | Gaderstocd would not Supaee of 6 all, i i y he C Ti ,. would be compelled by the Award tu sell at 20s. an acre, pect to reap any advantage from the Cowmissiva. The es- é tates of the Messrs. Cunard, and ef uve or two others that will come under the operation of the Award, sv that i cannot prove a general benefit to the tenantry throughout | 2 the Colony, and that too in the face of statements in the rese- futions introduced by the hoa member for Belfast, that it